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I'm sick of this god damn whaling 
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Whaling is bad and all, but ramming ships is not the way to protest it, especially in the antarctic. Down there, help is nowhere near if you go down. I don't know about you, but I value human life over whales.

Also, the crew of the Paul Watson's boats are completely incompetent. They are fresh out of college students or old hippies who have little to no experience in seafaring. The few professionals they manage to bring along all quit as soon as they finished one tour. Their captain is a lying bastard who goes and cries to the media if the Japanese so much as look at him funny. Even Greenpeace doesn't want anything to do with these guys.

I think you misread it, the Japanese rammed the protesters.

It doesn't say anywhere in the article that the Japanese rammed the protesters. The Ady Gil is a much more maneuverable ship than the whaling boat, and could have easily gotten out of the way. Too bad the idiots on board don't know how to run a ship.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8442808.stm

It notes they claimed it, I could also find an article stating it as a fact, but that one was from the Sea Shepherd site. :P

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if it really happened, though. The Japanese whalers value whales over human lives, too, apparantly. Which doesn't surprise me either.

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Deep Thought 42 wrote:
The An Hero of Time wrote:
Deep Thought 42 wrote:
Whaling is bad and all, but ramming ships is not the way to protest it, especially in the antarctic. Down there, help is nowhere near if you go down. I don't know about you, but I value human life over whales.

Also, the crew of the Paul Watson's boats are completely incompetent. They are fresh out of college students or old hippies who have little to no experience in seafaring. The few professionals they manage to bring along all quit as soon as they finished one tour. Their captain is a lying bastard who goes and cries to the media if the Japanese so much as look at him funny. Even Greenpeace doesn't want anything to do with these guys.

I think you misread it, the Japanese rammed the protesters.

It doesn't say anywhere in the article that the Japanese rammed the protesters. The Ady Gil is a much more maneuverable ship than the whaling boat, and could have easily gotten out of the way. Too bad the idiots on board don't know how to run a ship.

Well if you actually read up on it, the Japanese rammed the ship and legal actions are being taken against them for it.

Dutch police are also investigating piracy claims against the Japanese.

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The An Hero of Time wrote:
Deep Thought 42 wrote:
The An Hero of Time wrote:
Deep Thought 42 wrote:
Whaling is bad and all, but ramming ships is not the way to protest it, especially in the antarctic. Down there, help is nowhere near if you go down. I don't know about you, but I value human life over whales.

Also, the crew of the Paul Watson's boats are completely incompetent. They are fresh out of college students or old hippies who have little to no experience in seafaring. The few professionals they manage to bring along all quit as soon as they finished one tour. Their captain is a lying bastard who goes and cries to the media if the Japanese so much as look at him funny. Even Greenpeace doesn't want anything to do with these guys.

I think you misread it, the Japanese rammed the protesters.

It doesn't say anywhere in the article that the Japanese rammed the protesters. The Ady Gil is a much more maneuverable ship than the whaling boat, and could have easily gotten out of the way. Too bad the idiots on board don't know how to run a ship.

Well if you actually read up on it, the Japanese rammed the ship and legal actions are being taken against them for it.

Dutch police are also investigating piracy claims against the Japanese.

The Sea Shepards claimed that the Japanese rammed them. And the article definitely takes up on their side. Yes an investigation is being made, but nothing is going to come of it. The Sea Shepards won't admit guilt and the Japanese will refuse to negotiate with what they view as terrorists.

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Deep Thought 42 wrote:
The An Hero of Time wrote:
Deep Thought 42 wrote:
The An Hero of Time wrote:
Deep Thought 42 wrote:
Whaling is bad and all, but ramming ships is not the way to protest it, especially in the antarctic. Down there, help is nowhere near if you go down. I don't know about you, but I value human life over whales.

Also, the crew of the Paul Watson's boats are completely incompetent. They are fresh out of college students or old hippies who have little to no experience in seafaring. The few professionals they manage to bring along all quit as soon as they finished one tour. Their captain is a lying bastard who goes and cries to the media if the Japanese so much as look at him funny. Even Greenpeace doesn't want anything to do with these guys.

I think you misread it, the Japanese rammed the protesters.

It doesn't say anywhere in the article that the Japanese rammed the protesters. The Ady Gil is a much more maneuverable ship than the whaling boat, and could have easily gotten out of the way. Too bad the idiots on board don't know how to run a ship.

Well if you actually read up on it, the Japanese rammed the ship and legal actions are being taken against them for it.

Dutch police are also investigating piracy claims against the Japanese.

The Sea Shepards claimed that the Japanese rammed them. And the article definitely takes up on their side. Yes an investigation is being made, but nothing is going to come of it. The Sea Shepards won't admit guilt and the Japanese will refuse to negotiate with what they view as terrorists.

You seem quite biased.

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The An Hero of Time wrote:
Deep Thought 42 wrote:
The An Hero of Time wrote:
Deep Thought 42 wrote:
The An Hero of Time wrote:
Deep Thought 42 wrote:
Whaling is bad and all, but ramming ships is not the way to protest it, especially in the antarctic. Down there, help is nowhere near if you go down. I don't know about you, but I value human life over whales.

Also, the crew of the Paul Watson's boats are completely incompetent. They are fresh out of college students or old hippies who have little to no experience in seafaring. The few professionals they manage to bring along all quit as soon as they finished one tour. Their captain is a lying bastard who goes and cries to the media if the Japanese so much as look at him funny. Even Greenpeace doesn't want anything to do with these guys.

I think you misread it, the Japanese rammed the protesters.

It doesn't say anywhere in the article that the Japanese rammed the protesters. The Ady Gil is a much more maneuverable ship than the whaling boat, and could have easily gotten out of the way. Too bad the idiots on board don't know how to run a ship.

Well if you actually read up on it, the Japanese rammed the ship and legal actions are being taken against them for it.

Dutch police are also investigating piracy claims against the Japanese.

The Sea Shepards claimed that the Japanese rammed them. And the article definitely takes up on their side. Yes an investigation is being made, but nothing is going to come of it. The Sea Shepards won't admit guilt and the Japanese will refuse to negotiate with what they view as terrorists.

You seem quite biased.

No s*** sherlock.

Anyway, the Sea Shepards themselves stated they were going to use the boat to physically block the whalers. What did they expect to happen?
http://www.seashepherd.org/news-and-med ... 020-1.html
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Due to its speed capabilities, up to 50 knots, Captain Paul Watson (Sea Shepherd President and Founder) intends to use the Ady Gil to intercept and physically block the harpoon ships from illegally slaughtering whales.

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Physically block.

It does not state they rammed the Japanese.

If they were blocking, it would mean the Japanese rammed then.

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The Shōnan Maru weighs a couple hundred of tons and can't exactly stop or maneuver on a dime. The Ady Gil is practically a speedboat which could've dodged the Japanese ship. Instead they go right in front of it, thinking that will force the other captain to stop. The Sea Shepherd org also has a history of purposely colliding with the other Japanese ships. This is just another stunt by them to gain media recognition.

Even if you think the Japanese are at fault, you still have to ponder about the SS methods. Inexperienced crew performing dangerous tasks in an hostile environment is just irresponsible and reckless. They are putting lives at risk for a species of whale (minke) that are not even endangered!

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Deep Thought 42 wrote:
The Shōnan Maru weighs a couple hundred of tons and can't exactly stop or maneuver on a dime. The Ady Gil is practically a speedboat which could've dodged the Japanese ship. Instead they go right in front of it, thinking that will force the other captain to stop. The Sea Shepherd org also has a history of purposely colliding with the other Japanese ships. This is just another stunt by them to gain media recognition.

Even if you think the Japanese are at fault, you still have to ponder about the SS methods. Inexperienced crew performing dangerous tasks in an hostile environment is just irresponsible and reckless. They are putting lives at risk for a species of whale (minke) that are not even endangered!

I don't think they would all be inexperienced.

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If you've watched the show, you'll quickly see that the crew mostly comprises of young college students. Most who can't seem to get along. Any professionals they bring along, quit as soon as they reach port due to the conditions they work in. I actually find the show hilarious since most of the episodes go like this:

"I've never seen a whale die, and I'm not going to start today!"
*Boat breaks down*
*Several whales are slaughtered in full view of the crew*

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Deep Thought 42 wrote:
If you've watched the show, you'll quickly see that the crew mostly comprises of young college students. Most who can't seem to get along. Any professionals they bring along, quit as soon as they reach port due to the conditions they work in. I actually find the show hilarious since most of the episodes go like this:

"I've never seen a whale die, and I'm not going to start today!"
*Boat breaks down*
*Several whales are slaughtered in full view of the crew*

I don't think the show presents much of a clear view either. At best it might be a cut-and-edit soap.

Anyway, the Japanese are the ones violating a treaty here (scientific research, my hat).

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