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niayre wrote:
So you are saying Chillin and Chudat aren't good compared to those in the west coast?

yes I am

easy to overrate players when they only play in awful regions and have a larger fanbase than their skill warrants as a result of that and other things like the documentary and good self-promotion

the WC crew is composed of the best players from the best region(s) in the world + axe, who is very obviously better than them as well

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Not anymore. Or rather they can't compete with highest-level of Melee today.

If the very top of Melee is: PPMD, Mango, M2K, HungryBox, Armada (Not in here, but mentioning him)
Right under them would be: SFAT, Axe, PewPewU, Shroomed, Plup,
Close under that would probably be: Johnny, Fiction, Zhu, Westballz.

Don't need to go further to understand how West Coast crew are more well-rounded at high-level. Even though East Coast has 3 of the 5 Melee-gods, West Coast has a lot of Demi-gods.


You're leaving out a lot of players here lol, and some placements are inaccurate

Leffen especially really needs to be in there, he's the 6th best player at worst. Was typing more than that up but there wasn't much reason because your actual point is correct

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Zalo wrote:
Not anymore. Or rather they can't compete with highest-level of Melee today.

If the very top of Melee is: PPMD, Mango, M2K, HungryBox, Armada (Not in here, but mentioning him)
Right under them would be: SFAT, Axe, PewPewU, Shroomed, Plup,
Close under that would probably be: Johnny, Fiction, Zhu, Westballz.

Don't need to go further to understand how West Coast crew are more well-rounded at high-level. Even though East Coast has 3 of the 5 Melee-gods, West Coast has a lot of Demi-gods.

Dammit! I still want East Coast to win though! PeePee could take them all!



You forgot Hax. Also Westballz definitely belongs to the second list imo.

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Zalo wrote:
Not anymore. Or rather they can't compete with highest-level of Melee today.

If the very top of Melee is: PPMD, Mango, M2K, HungryBox, Armada (Not in here, but mentioning him)
Right under them would be: SFAT, Axe, PewPewU, Shroomed, Plup,
Close under that would probably be: Johnny, Fiction, Zhu, Westballz.

Why are you calling him Johnny when his alias is S2J?


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Zalo wrote:
Not anymore. Or rather they can't compete with highest-level of Melee today.

If the very top of Melee is: PPMD, Mango, M2K, HungryBox, Armada (Not in here, but mentioning him)
Right under them would be: SFAT, Axe, PewPewU, Shroomed, Plup,
Close under that would probably be: Johnny, Fiction, Zhu, Westballz.

Why are you calling him Johnny when his alias is S2J?

because it says Johnny on the West Coast Crew line-up


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Thats actually pretty sad.

Especially in the interview that OnGamers did he was like, "And..." and the mic pulled away from him.

that moment tugged on my heart strings a bit. But if he likes smash flash 2 he can play it in the comfort of his own home, maybe even support the community and what not lol.

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AMsa was wrecking s*** with his yoshi @ kings of cali

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he's been wrecking s*** with his yoshi for a while now, it's been really fun to watch

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Tid wrote:
he's been wrecking s#%$& with his yoshi for a while now, it's been really fun to watch

I'm glad he is joining tournaments and showing how great Yoshi is. I bet Mango is happy now that he is coming in first at tournaments again. I saw a interview of him at Super sweet and that he was sick of coming in third.

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yoshi ain't a good character to begin with, amsa just really gud wit da n****. just like axe is gud wit his n****.

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niayre wrote:
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he's been wrecking s#%$& with his yoshi for a while now, it's been really fun to watch

I'm glad he is joining tournaments and showing how great Yoshi is. I bet Mango is happy now that he is coming in first at tournaments again. I saw a interview of him at Super sweet and that he was sick of coming in third.

yoshi is still a pretty bad character (everyone knew he was underrated for a while, but he's still not great). Amsa is incredible with him, but he has some hard limitations.

And mango and armada are pretty much trading back and forth right now. It's hard to say how PP will place at evo, though.

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I feel yoshi might be a character that seems non viable because of how polarizing fox is.... I mean yoshi loses hard to fox and 60% of melee players use fox.. but for some other basic MU's I don't think yoshi suffers that much.

If aMSa could get his yoshi to be optimal against foxes somehow I see him possibly being top6, I mean his tech skill and IQ is ridiculous.

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GreaterMaelstrom wrote:
I feel yoshi might be a character that seems non viable because of how polarizing fox is.... I mean yoshi loses hard to fox and 60% of melee players use fox.. but for some other basic MU's I don't think yoshi suffers that much.

If aMSa could get his yoshi to be optimal against foxes somehow I see him possibly being top6, I mean his tech skill and IQ is ridiculous.

From what I have seen he does well against Foxes, but I don't see much matches so I'm not sure.

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aMSa does OK against fox players but Yoshi doesn't do well against fox... Imo aMSa just outplays most fox users... but if you look at a match like aMSa v. Mango, you'd see Mango basically raped with his fox Bnbs and "basic tech"... It almost seemed like all of yoshis approaches or tech didn't matter... Mango barley had to apply reads, prediction etc.. all he really had to do was trust his own tech skill, You can see the gap in character viability during that match up.

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