McLeodgaming Mafia V [Devs vs Balancers]
Author |
Message |
Fly or Die
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:41 pm Posts: 261 Location: Indiana, USA
Gender: Male
Currently Playing: Fable III
|
3/8 are pretty good random-lynch chances. Also, even if we no-lynch today we would be left with nine town, four mafia, and two third-party. With over double the amount of non-town when opposed to non-town, we would have to lynch correctly four times out of six and end with a correct lynch in order to win (three town, zero mafia, two third-party).
|
Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:58 am |
|
|
Ikuyo
Joined: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:01 am Posts: 865 Country:
Gender: Female
MGN Username: 194
Currently Playing: most likely Celeste
Waifu: Curly Brace
|
Hey, but... that's ok considering we all lynch randomly. But Mafia will not random lynch, they all will go for lynching a townie, and they can easily chooose one target that looks scummy enough. The odds for a scum random lynch are in fact really lower. I can't get why do you want to start one, however. by the way, I vote: No Lynching because of the reasonings above.
_________________Avatar and signature pics by Semicolon.
|
Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:15 am |
|
|
Pach
Joined: Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:11 pm Posts: 515 Location: here Country:
Gender: Anime Girl
MGN Username: Pach
Skype: pach_ino
|
I'm still thinking about the possibility of a third-party killer. If we do have one, then we should probably do a random lynch today, as no-lynching would put us in a bad spot. Again, this is assuming we have a third-party killer (which we should mind you).
|
Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:23 am |
|
|
Crabby
Joined: Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:24 pm Posts: 327 Location: Earth
Gender: Male
Currently Playing: Fire Emblem (6-9), Shadow Dragon, Infamous, SSB, GNT4
|
Chances are actually even better than that. Currently, it's 10 town/ 6 non-town. However, because Genis is most likely town and if the person choosing the lynch is town, it's actually 6/14 chance of lynching scum; 43% Furthermore, when one also excludes more people likely to be town (imo unknown; not sure about others yet...) chances increase as well. We can potentially get a 50/50 chance or better of lynching mafia if we keep the discussion going. I'm curious to see how TSO will react with two votes on him. Vote: TSO
|
Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:57 am |
|
|
Crabby
Joined: Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:24 pm Posts: 327 Location: Earth
Gender: Male
Currently Playing: Fire Emblem (6-9), Shadow Dragon, Infamous, SSB, GNT4
|
Oh, to those who didn't know I meant 194 when I said unknown.
|
Sat Sep 24, 2011 12:15 pm |
|
|
Pach
Joined: Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:11 pm Posts: 515 Location: here Country:
Gender: Anime Girl
MGN Username: Pach
Skype: pach_ino
|
In case I get misinterpreted, what I mean here, is that we should assume that there is a third-party killer until proven otherwise.
|
Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:11 pm |
|
|
Fly or Die
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:41 pm Posts: 261 Location: Indiana, USA
Gender: Male
Currently Playing: Fable III
|
Third party killer would basically mean a town loss.
Day/night one -Town lynches mafia -Mafia kills town -Killer kills town -Eight:three:two
Day/night two -Town lynches mafia -Mafia kills town -Killer kills town -Six:two:two
Day/night three -Town lynches mafia -Mafia kills town -Killer kills town -Four:one:two
Day/night four -Town lynches mafia -Killer kills town -Three:two
Day/night five -Town lynches third-party -Killer kills town -Two:one
1/3 chance of town win
That's also assuming we magically always lynch correctly.
|
Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:31 pm |
|
|
Genis
Joined: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:38 pm Posts: 940 Location: The Darkest Timeline
Gender: Male
Skype: GenisPotter
Currently Playing: Awesomenauts, SSBB, Project M
|
I seriously have no idea what to do right now. Can we get a role list? Like, 3 investigative roles of some sort, one protective role, etc.
|
Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:00 pm |
|
|
Blood
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:49 pm Posts: 594 Location: ???????????????
Gender: Male
|
But that would take out all the fun and strategy of the game. We were lucky to get an alignment list.
|
Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:21 pm |
|
|
Blood
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:49 pm Posts: 594 Location: ???????????????
Gender: Male
|
Sorry for DP. Fly or die why would you assume that the third party role would only kill townies? This third party could be a lonely individual for all we know. I'm sure they would also want to kill mafia. Same goes for mafia, why wouldn't they kill the third party? This makes your theory completely invalid. The chances of the town winning is completely random. Yet it's quite strange you assumed this, unless of course you know something that we don't.
|
Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:27 pm |
|
|
Savvy, eh?
BR Member
Joined: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:03 am Posts: 752 Location: Rising up to become the one they all fear. Country:
Gender: Anime Girl
MGN Username: Savvy, eh?
Currently Playing: Savvy's Art Academy
|
Ok, I think I was ninja'd approximately 20 times, but I guess some of this still applies. The following is what I was going to post: Now, let us look at our odds of successfully hitting an antagonistic role on a random lynch, excluding those two. That leaves us with 8 townies and 6 antagonists, or a 43% chance of lynching an antagonist. Those are, admittedly, some of the best odds that we will ever get. However, as Unknown pointed out, no random lynch is truly random with scum involved. They will either "randomly" suggest someone, knowing full well that said person is a townie/third party, or they will latch on to a townie's random lynch suggestion, ensuring a non-scum death. Either way, we lose. Vote: No lynch.Considering that this is a themed mafia game, we are at an advantage when it comes to determining whether there is a third-party killer or not. Let us look the list of balancers, first of all. 1 [TSON] 2 The Cadet 3 Cleod9 4 Gold 5 Faceless Void 6 Tid 7 ZaloZemsis 8 194 9 Panthera leo 10 Red 11 Brikmaethor 12 crabbyman66 13 135 14 -Aura_Fear- 15 RM!!! 16 T.testLP 17 bc1910 I have taken the liberty of highlighting those members of the team that are also developers. They are the likeliest candidates for mafia roles, I believe. What we must consider, though, is which persons would be most suitable as third parties. Is anyone in this group a bit of a loner? If so, would it make sense for a killing role to be based on them? Meaning no offense to him whatsoever, if I had to guess at a person to base a third-party killer on, it would be The Cadet. He hasn't been around in a long time and has a tendency to get angry on the occasion, two things which could very well fit a serial killer-like role. On the other hand, I don't think DJ Wizzard has been around long enough to be familiar with him. It really could be either way at this point.
|
Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:09 pm |
|
|
Pach
Joined: Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:11 pm Posts: 515 Location: here Country:
Gender: Anime Girl
MGN Username: Pach
Skype: pach_ino
|
I believe that he already told us that he won't be posting a roles list. For reasons stated, I'm starting to lean more towards the fact that there isn't a third-party killer. However, we should still keep that possibility in our mind, seeing as we don't know what the roles are. Anyways, I'm No Lynching until we get more evidence.
|
Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:12 pm |
|
|
Fly or Die
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:41 pm Posts: 261 Location: Indiana, USA
Gender: Male
Currently Playing: Fable III
|
We could use random.org for a random lynch to make it truly random. That's a habit I've recently fallen in to.
|
Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:22 pm |
|
|
Fly or Die
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:41 pm Posts: 261 Location: Indiana, USA
Gender: Male
Currently Playing: Fable III
|
Double Post.
Just did it, random.org landed on me (12). Not good for me, but w/e
|
Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:23 pm |
|
|
Ikuyo
Joined: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:01 am Posts: 865 Country:
Gender: Female
MGN Username: 194
Currently Playing: most likely Celeste
Waifu: Curly Brace
|
Well, let's solve this problem.
Assume that a person votes randomly. If that person is mafia, and, assuming there are just 4 mafias, he will vote randomly between the other 12 players. Non-scums will vote randomly between any other player.
So, the probability of someone voting randomly a mafia is:
P(X Voting mafia)=P(X is non-mafia)*P(non-mafia voting mafia)+P(X being mafia)*P(Mafia voting mafia) =12/16*4/15+4/16*0 (Mafia wouldn't vote a mafia, you know) =1/5.
That's the exact probability that any random person has of being voting a mafia member.
_________________Avatar and signature pics by Semicolon.
|
Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:29 pm |
|
|
Who is online |
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest |
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot post attachments in this forum
|
|