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MG Mafia XVI: Breaking Bad Mafia (Game Over) 
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Read his posts on this page and the previous one and tell me he hasn't been helping.

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Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:28 pm
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Anything specific you'd like to bring up? I could see a few spots that could count as (appearing to) helping the Town, but overall his motives are somewhat unclear.

If you aren't too busy, I'd like to hear from you a detailed explanation as to why you think Geno is helping the Town, and why I'm suspicious.

Also, I still don't get the reasoning behind this.
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OK so, it's basically or 135 lying to us or Geno lying to us.


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Anything specific you'd like to bring up? I could see a few spots that could count as (appearing to) helping the Town, but overall his motives are somewhat unclear.

No they are not unclear, you're just trying to make me a grey area for some reason. My motives are clear as crystal, moving the town forward.


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Hey guys, now that we only have around 3 to 4 days left, I think I’ll go ahead and claim.

My role is Hank Schrader, the Cop. I investigated Lucina last night and got a “Guilty” result. So yeah.
Throughout Day 1 I deliberately played kind of sloppily in an effort to avoid Mafia Night-Kill. I suppose I kind of overdid it, though, and attracted more suspicion than I intended to. Meanwhile, I also voted a lot more frequently than I generally do; this way, when I have to “spontaneously” vote for a Mafia I found, I could do so without appearing out of character. At the end of the Day, I had 2 prime suspects: Lucina and King Arthur. I decided that I would investigate one of the two. Since Lucina was more quiet, I thought it would be more difficult to deduce her alignment by looking at her posts, so investigating her would be a more suitable use of the ability. Turns out she was Mafia.
My main objective at the start was to build a case on Lucina so she’d get Lynched without my having to reveal myself. However, like I said, she’s quiet, so there’s not much substance in her post I could use for building said case. By the end of our “skirmish”, I decided that I’ll have to claim today to get her Lynched. So I stopped playing low-profile, since I planned on claiming anyways and would become a Mafia target. However, I didn’t claim right away because I wanted a bit more material to be posted before the Town goes “Oh Lucina is Mafia vote vote vote” (Day ends). It was around this time that Geno suggested that everyone report their Night Action results. I thought his actions were against the Town, so I made a case on him, since I don’t have to stay low-profile anymore. For one, I thought he meant a mass Action-claim, which I didn’t like. Another one was him suggesting reporting Night Actions in the middle of the day, which could easily cause the Day to conclude prematurely. A few posts later, Geno said he wasn’t talking about a mass-claim and stuff, and in general his responses were pretty Town-like, so I stopped questioning him.
After that I’ve just been kind of trying to squeeze content out of the Day before I claim and stuff. Worked somewhat, considering Axel made a few “meaty” posts. Still though, guys, we really need people to post meaty stuff. Not just things like “Hmm I suspect _______ IDK why though”, although posting things like that is OK as long as it’s not the only thing you’re posting.



Summary: Vote Lucina guys.


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Oops wall of text lol
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Hey guys, now that we only have around 3 to 4 days left, I think I’ll go ahead and claim.


My role is Hank Schrader, the Cop. I investigated Lucina last night and got a “Guilty” result. So yeah.

Throughout Day 1 I deliberately played kind of sloppily in an effort to avoid Mafia Night-Kill. I suppose I kind of overdid it, though, and attracted more suspicion than I intended to. Meanwhile, I also voted a lot more frequently than I generally do; this way, when I have to “spontaneously” vote for a Mafia I found, I could do so without appearing out of character. At the end of the Day, I had 2 prime suspects: Lucina and King Arthur. I decided that I would investigate one of the two. Since Lucina was more quiet, I thought it would be more difficult to deduce her alignment by looking at her posts, so investigating her would be a more suitable use of the ability. Turns out she was Mafia.

My main objective at the start was to build a case on Lucina so she’d get Lynched without my having to reveal myself. However, like I said, she’s quiet, so there’s not much substance in her post I could use for building said case. By the end of our “skirmish”, I decided that I’ll have to claim today to get her Lynched. So I stopped playing low-profile, since I planned on claiming anyways and would become a Mafia target. However, I didn’t claim right away because I wanted a bit more material to be posted before the Town goes “Oh Lucina is Mafia vote vote vote” (Day ends). It was around this time that Geno suggested that everyone report their Night Action results. I thought his actions were against the Town, so I made a case on him, since I don’t have to stay low-profile anymore. For one, I thought he meant a mass Action-claim, which I didn’t like. Another one was him suggesting reporting Night Actions in the middle of the day, which could easily cause the Day to conclude prematurely. A few posts later, Geno said he wasn’t talking about a mass-claim and stuff, and in general his responses were pretty Town-like, so I stopped questioning him.

After that I’ve just been kind of trying to squeeze content out of the Day before I claim and stuff. Worked somewhat, considering Axel made a few “meaty” posts. Still though, guys, we really need people to post meaty stuff. Not just things like “Hmm I suspect _______ IDK why though”, although posting things like that is OK as long as it’s not the only thing you’re posting.



Summary: Vote Lucina guys.


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Okay, well that isn't true.

Unless the mafia has a framer or something, you're lying.


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Considering Hank's character, I wouldn't be surprised if he was a naive cop.


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But if he got "guilty", then he would be a paranoid or insane cop.


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But if he got "guilty", then he would be a paranoid or insane cop.

Yeah sorry, that's what I meant.


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Also, from the reads I have carried over from Kyuubit, I think that 135 is, at the very most, not Mafia-aligned. I'm not very certain on the true nature of his role, but I believe what he is saying. If I find anything that changes my mind I'll let you know.

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Requesting deadline extension until end of Sunday/ early Monday, when hopefully we'll have enough active players around to get a majority vote for Lynching.

But seriously though, guys.

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Considering Hank's character, I wouldn't be surprised if he was a naive cop

After pushing for people to report their Night Actions, the first reaction you have to the Cop giving a result (a Guilty report, nonetheless) is to doubt its validity? If not for the fact that I re-read Lucina's Day 1 posts last night and came across a post kind-of-sort-of antagonizing you (saying you were subtly trying to Lynch Axel), I would think you were just trying to lure the Cop out, and once he revealed your Mafia buddy, attempt to deny the results, then finish off said Cop at night. And, actually, that's what I thought your motives were, until around very recently.

IDK where you got the part about his personality making him [insert non-straight Cop role]. I mean, OK, he has personality flaws (just like, uh, most characters in fiction), but at the same time he's quite competent at his job and is also one of the main characters. In fact, the main "hero" of the story, if Walter's side is the "villians".

That being said, even if I did have skewed results (which is possibly, but improbably, the case, but then again, which Cop didn't have to worry about this?) there are still reads on Lucina we could go off of, and she would still be a top suspect had I not used my Night Action. I've played against her when she was Mafia before, and this is extremely close to how she played: remaining somewhat active, but tending to be disengaged and staying in the background. There's a reason I chose to investigate her in the first place.

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Also, from the reads I have carried over from Kyuubit, I think that 135 is, at the very most, not Mafia-aligned. I'm not very certain on the true nature of his role, but I believe what he is saying. If I find anything that changes my mind I'll let you know.


Feel free to read through my Day 1 posts again; I think I've explained my motives pretty well in my claim. The job of the Cop, in general, isn't to be the knight-in-shining armor, at least not until (s)he thinks a claim is necessary. I was actually quite content with the persona I've built up by the end of Day 1, since it would probably mean the Mafia would not target me until I got a Mafia result and had to reveal myself, although I would have preferred less attention on me. Turns out I got a "Guilty" result pretty quick. I didn't think that people would continue to doubt my alignment much at all after I claimed, since, well, un-CounterClaimed Cop AND Hank Schrader would have been enough evidence in my favor, or at least I thought.


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