stop censoring everythinh Fleep

I actually found most of that extremely helpful.

As did I

Please, Felipe.

I don't see a lot town intent in your posts now, and it looks like you're arguing to distract the town, but I'll look through them one more time. That, in my opinion and in countless others', it far more important than having great logic.

And even so, Panthera was using his logic to distract the town from actually scumhunting, which is why there was so much reaction to his post about stopping random voting. Meanwhile, even if my logic is bad(which I assure you, it is not), at least I try to scumhunt.

And people, stop wailing on Axel just because he's new at mafia. Just because his logic may not be great does not mean that he's trying to mislead the town or prevent scumhunting. The main difference between Panthera and Axel was that Panthera tried to stop the town from scumhunting while Axel is just trying to be somewhat helpful.

I've already mislynched him once. I'm not making the same mistake twice.

Pachino, Flame, can you tell us when you're going to be finished with your read of the game?

First quote: Said by me at the very beginning of the game

Second Quote: Meta, which means nothing. I am playing my usual town game. In fact i am playing exactly the same i did as Cirno or Quote. I am town because that? no.

Third and Fourth quote: He keeps going with using Meta to defend Axel. And he AtE to try to convince us to not lynch him ("Please. Listen to me. I've made the mistake of lynching him once already")

And thats funny, because he used AtE as a reason against me.

Fifth Post: He is giving advice to axel and says something completely subjetive about being a mafia.

Was that useful? Not at all.

First bold: Reread my last post. If we consider today, we are on even ground about that.

About panthera. The guy didnt have logic at all, he was spitting senseless crap.

Second bold: Why we cant pressure him??? are you actually trying to stop from scumhunting?

And no, Axel is not trying to be helpful, he is blatantly coasting you and filling with 1 liners.

Third Bold: Meta means absolutely nothing. New game = New world.

Shut up. Listen to Terra. I'm trying to help. I really am.

Really Terra, aside from Meta (You should never rely on that. in that case reread the touhou and cave story mafia, where iwas town and i had the exactly same play than i do right now) there is any reason why are you defending someone who makes post like the above one ?

OK. This will be annoying.

Didn't realize you said that, but at least you did.

Meta can mean everything. If you play the same way, I'll take a look and then see. Although people change over time, I should be able to pick up traits that you have as town, though you have no scum meta because you haven't played enough. For a VI, it's even more important we check meta to make sure they do the same as both town and scum.

AtE is found in both alignments, but you use it as a way to throw the town off-track.

We can pressure him, but give him the benefit of the doubt.

Preedit: @Felipe: It is intent. I see intent in Axel's posting. Town intent.

Thats what you dont get, meta means nothing. I come from smashboards, where mafia is hardcore. Meta shouldnt mean anything, because players can change their playstile and not follow patrons, like Brik does.

And i know what AtE is terra and how it is used, really, explain that for the rest but not for me, i have played mafia for a long time.

And about the intent part, thats pure s***, just read his last post. I dont find any town itent behind that.

Okay, I don't trust Felipe very much in general, but what he's saying is true, Terra.

It's like every other post from Axel contains "Shut up Felipe", "Listen to Terra", or both.
Please just stop with the meta for 5 seconds and at least tell us what you think of Axel trying to buddy up with you.

Axel isn't helping at all, really. Is he trying to? Yes. But the thing is, who is he helping?

Also: Scott's sig sums a ton of this stuff up

Pachino already made his reads.

Now that I'm caught up and everything... yay, reads!

Terra: Terra seems to be being "Good Guy Terra" and has been helping the town. I read a town vibe on him.

Axel: I understand that he's new to mafia. I can't make a clear read on him at the moment due to this factor, especially that he's siding with Terra in most of his posts. I highly recommend that he studies up on his Mafia before he makes another post.

Ramsey: Someone can reanimate the dead? This seems like a townish role to me.

Blood: Through out the game, it seems like he's been helping out the town.

Felipe: I've seen his playstyle before. I'm not 100% sure, but I think he might be town.

Lightning: I've only seen one Gladiator in a mafia game prior to this one. It was mafia gladiator, but I'm not 100% sure on Lightning.

Thomas: I have a feeling that he's town. I'm not 100% positive.

King Arthur: I honestly don't know. He's null atm to me.

Kyuubit: Haven't seen him post in forever. Not even sure if he's confirmed 3rd party. lol

Pachino: He's only made a couple posts this game. (then again, same with me xD)

I assure you, I'm not trying to help the mafia.

F&F that is way too many town reads.