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Starkiller
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Good Job! I think its good to note that out of the 25 characters it *can* work on at 0%, 9 of them drop off (leaving 16, but Mario's is barely). So Fox can upthrow->uair half the cast reliably. Idk if he can actually kill off of these though on an average stage, the reason Fox can hit these characters is that they don't fly too far and the distance they fly so that he can hit them with uair might not be enough for the uair to kill.
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TheCodeSamurai
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By the way:
Is there some percentage where Fox can't reach them without falling and so the combo doesn't work? Fox can SH and then FH, SH, FH, and double FH. Are there any characters that can sneak in between two of these and avoid the combo at certain percents?
Uthrow uair works reliably as a kill option against the characters. I don't recall exactly, but I think no character that I hit with uair survived at 100%: it's one of the best vertical kill moves in the game used at a double FJ height.
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SoldierSunday
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I think Uthrow > Bair is as useful as Uthrow > Uair.
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TheCodeSamurai
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Against fast-fallers, it's more so. However, I'm pretty certain on the borderline characters uair kills earlier. Additionally, for some characters the combo only works with uair because the little bit of vertical reach makes all the difference.
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Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:22 pm |
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Lord doughnut
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I do all on the characters I can. I do Uthrow > Uair > Bair or sometimes go for another Uair.
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Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:41 pm |
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Agate
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Fox is definitely a good character. His moves are decent kill moves especially his N-air, B-air, and U-air. Fox may not have a decent combo game as other characters, but it is a challenge to try and find one which make it fun. He's also very fun once you figure out how to do the multi-shine.
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Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:13 pm |
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TheCodeSamurai
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His combo game isn't really that bad. He has super solid B&B's that do upwards of 30% and possibilities for more given ideal circumstances.
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Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:25 pm |
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Lord doughnut
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Agreed and N-air is not really a relialbe kill move.
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Jammy
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His combo game is amazing what are you talking about lol
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:31 am |
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Still , his N-air can setup a kill move depends the opponent's DI and weight. Nair > turnaround shine > Bair Nair > (shine) > JC Upsmash. Fox is a scary character in the hands of a technical and inventive player. He can pretty much 0-to-death his ditto or do heavy combos against most chars in the roster.
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:47 am |
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Zapperrix
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Fox can also do N-air into sliding U-smash depending on DI at certain percents
Dashing into a short hop U-air after a N-air also works, but it's much harder.
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:59 am |
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Auraka
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Nair > (shine) > JC~ grab Reliable kill moves are u-smash, u-air and (reverse) bair
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:04 am |
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Lord doughnut
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Oh I know and use it to start a lot of my combos. @Auraka I agree
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TzOG C
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I've kept saying this in IRC chat but everyone always thinks I'm talking about multishining. It can be continued like waveshining in Melee but just like waveshining, its a hard tech to master. I used to have a replay of it but its the previous patch of ssf2. Its on DK and I've tested it in Training Mode multiple times, it is a true combo;however, you have to practically be inside the other char and have to pretty much do frame perfect shines. Edit: Utilt to any aerial is a true combo if you read the DI, works at high percents too allowing for Utilt > Uair to function like Melee's Uthrow > Uair but reading the DI is harder and getting the second hit of Uair is pretty hard too, at least for me it is. Edit 2: The little "tech" replay is on the previous patch that is 0.9.1.1978 for anyone that wants it
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Lord doughnut
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Yeah I use up tilt a lot and into combo into finishers as well. The thing about Fox's up tilt is that it sends the opponent into a nice amount of hitstun just like DK's does so you can follow up with almost anything. On Fox, Falcon and Bomberman I use up throw into up tilt since their accelerated falling speed is so high.
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