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MG Mafia XVI: Breaking Bad Mafia (Game Over) 
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I didn't use mine, if that helps at all


Would your ability interfere with others rather than complementing them?
It's the only reason I can think of for not using it.

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Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:31 pm
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That's interesting...

Vote: Lucina

wtf is this?

Can we stop doing this please. "HMM.... IS THAT RIGHT...??? [vote]" with literally 0 context. You soft claimed tracker earlier, at least that was what you seemed to say.


I was quite shocked that she said I was Tracker, because I didn't know she thought I soft-claimed (which I didn't). I might have worded my post in a confusing way, but even then, it wouldn't make much sense for me to claim "Walter White the Tracker" since W.W. is pretty clearly the Mafia. I didn't think anyone would take that post as me soft-claiming, but I guess it was taken that way :/

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My question is why aren't people sharing what their abilities did last night? It's why we're at a standstill.


I have to disagree. Mass-claiming night actions IMO wouldn't be much help to the Town at this point. I'd say we're at a stand-still not because the entire Town isn't talking about Night actions, but rather because half of the players are either inactive or trying to catch up. At this point what we need are reads and readable material, and jumping to Night actions prematurely would likely snuff out the production of those things.

Anyways, Geno, I'm going to assume that you have already soft-claimed through the results on Axel you provided to us. Would you mind character-claiming, like Mr. Shoop?


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There's a reason I didn't use my ability but I'd rather not say right now

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I have to disagree. Mass-claiming night actions IMO wouldn't be much help to the Town at this point. I'd say we're at a stand-still not because the entire Town isn't talking about Night actions, but rather because half of the players are either inactive or trying to catch up. At this point what we need are reads and readable material, and jumping to Night actions prematurely would likely snuff out the production of those things.

Anyways, Geno, I'm going to assume that you have already soft-claimed through the results on Axel you provided to us. Would you mind character-claiming, like Mr. Shoop?


>Demands that action claiming (and therefore claiming as a whole) is unproductive
>Inmediatly after, asks for a claim.

Woah, nice way to contradict yourself there.

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W.W. is pretty clearly the Mafia.

What. Explain. Please. I really don't understand why the protagonist of the Breaking Bad is the mafia in this game.

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The city of Albuquerque, New Mexico is rife with criminal activity. The drug trade has been growing larger and larger. Drugs are more popular now than ever before. The dealers have everything from marijuana to crystal meth. You got the cash, they'll hook you up. There's been talks recently, a new cook by the name Heisenberg. They say his product is 99% pure, and one taste of his cook will hook you for life. The higher-ups haven't taken too kindly to this; Heisenberg's taking all their customers. Whoever this guy is, he's a marked man...

Taken from the first post. Sounds like Mafia to me. Informed? Check. Minority? Check. New guy in town? Check. Secretive? Check. Got a team of buddies, rough around 2 to 4 people in size? Check.


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>Demands that action claiming (and therefore claiming as a whole) is unproductive
>Inmediatly after, asks for a claim.

Woah, nice way to contradict yourself there.

I said mass-claiming is unproductive. I asked for a specific character claim from a person who has already action-claimed, which is quite different from a role-claim, much less a mass role-claim.

So yeah, I'm sticking to wanting one from Geno, if it isn't too big of an inconvenience for him.


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Walter White is not mafia lmfao, for sure town.

And yeah, I don't mind character claiming, but what benefit would that have for the town right now? You're asking me to character claim for no real reason. All it would do is give mafia one more character to not claim should they ever attempt a character claim. If I said I were Jesse, for example, how would that move things along? Do you merely wish to settle an idle curiosity, or are their ulterior motives behind your wonkey and contradictory posts?

VOTE: 135

Your posts have been bothering me since square 1, though to be honest I can't quite pinpoint why. Regardless, I've got my eye on you. I'm not character claiming until more people come forward regarding their abilities. If i'm the only guy who did anything Night 1, how does me claiming my character change anything when you already know that I have a vauge investigative role.

Everyone, BE MORE ACTIVE. State whether or not you used an ability. Give your thoughts on the situation. Something. We chose to No Lynch so we could use the tools available to us to assist in digging up scum since our leads ran dry.


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did anyone even claim Walter?

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According to what TOWK sent me, I didn't use my ability. Again, I don't know what my former replacements were thinking, so I can't really say why.

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There's something which I REALLY don't get. This night, either you didn't use your ability or your ability was used but you were roleblocked. That's what we have read so far.

OK, question is: don't you realize that's REALLY UNLIKELY? even if we HAD that many roleblockers/jailkeepers they would be more likely to hit players which didn't use their abilities anyway. The possibilities of this happening in Night 1 (when nobody has information about abilities) are absurdly low.

Therefore, either we were affected by a global roleblocker, or at least one of the players claiming to have been roleblocked is lying. and, as we know already that at least one player DID use his abilities (Geno), then we have someone lying.

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There's something which I REALLY don't get. This night, either you didn't use your ability or your ability was used but you were roleblocked. That's what we have read so far.

OK, question is: don't you realize that's REALLY UNLIKELY? even if we HAD that many roleblockers/jailkeepers they would be more likely to hit players which didn't use their abilities anyway. The possibilities of this happening in Night 1 (when nobody has information about abilities) are absurdly low.

Therefore, either we were affected by a global roleblocker, or at least one of the players claiming to have been roleblocked is lying. and, as we know already that at least one player DID use his abilities (Geno), then we have someone lying.

Who is this directed towards?

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All of you.

It shows how the current situation is odd and therefore there's someone lying. My first picks are all the players who claim to have been roleblocked.

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Yeah, I find that rather improbable too. But Kyuubit left, so :/


Anyways.
Dr.Geno wrote:
Walter White is not mafia lmfao, for sure town.

And yeah, I don't mind character claiming, but what benefit would that have for the town right now? You're asking me to character claim for no real reason. All it would do is give mafia one more character to not claim should they ever attempt a character claim. If I said I were Jesse, for example, how would that move things along?

I'm asking you to claim because you're one of the most suspicious players right now. I mean, half the time (end of Day 1, beginning of Day 2) you seem fine, but during the other half my Scumdar gets ping'd like every post. Suggesting a mass action claim is a tactic I have yet to come across in any previous MG Mafia games, probably because it is just as likely to hurt the Town as to help it.
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Do you merely wish to settle an idle curiosity, or are their ulterior motives behind your wonkey and contradictory posts?

VOTE: 135

Your posts have been bothering me since square 1, though to be honest I can't quite pinpoint why. Regardless, I've got my eye on you.

OMGUS?

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I'm not character claiming until more people come forward regarding their abilities.

So you're not going to character claim until people follow your plans for Mass-claim?
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If i'm the only guy who did anything Night 1, how does me claiming my character change anything when you already know that I have a vauge investigative role.

If you claimed and it's a nice claim then we'd be a bit more certain that you're for reals.
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Everyone, BE MORE ACTIVE.

Seconded.
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State whether or not you used an ability.

I think the players themselves can be left to decide when and how to reveal their Night 1 actions.
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Give your thoughts on the situation. Something.

Yes. This.
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We chose to No Lynch so we could use the tools available to us to assist in digging up scum since our leads ran dry.

Yes, but this doesn't mean everyone needs to claim what they did. There already has been a prodigious amount of talk about Night actions for now, and I don't see why we should rush other players to divulge their night actions.


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135 wrote:
Dr.Geno wrote:
Walter White is not mafia lmfao, for sure town.

And yeah, I don't mind character claiming, but what benefit would that have for the town right now? You're asking me to character claim for no real reason. All it would do is give mafia one more character to not claim should they ever attempt a character claim. If I said I were Jesse, for example, how would that move things along?

I'm asking you to claim because you're one of the most suspicious players right now. I mean, half the time (end of Day 1, beginning of Day 2) you seem fine, but during the other half my Scumdar gets ping'd like every post. Suggesting a mass action claim is a tactic I have yet to come across in any previous MG Mafia games, probably because it is just as likely to hurt the Town as to help it.

Um, how am I suspicious at all? Because i'm the only one trying to do anything maybe bar 194 and Genis/Engi? Everyone being inactive, at least I woud think, are 100 times more suspicious. It's like you're trying to make a case against me because I'm an easy target for bandwagon. An easy town kill to round off the day maybe? Who knows, but what I know for sure is that with each of your posts you begin to look more and more scum like.
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Do you merely wish to settle an idle curiosity, or are their ulterior motives behind your wonkey and contradictory posts?

VOTE: 135

Your posts have been bothering me since square 1, though to be honest I can't quite pinpoint why. Regardless, I've got my eye on you.

OMGUS?

One word reply with a word I don't know the meaning of (and which I'm sure 70% of the people who use it don't know either, and use it to sound intelligent in a mafia game.)

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I'm not character claiming until more people come forward regarding their abilities.

So you're not going to character claim until people follow your plans for Mass-claim?

Way to take what I said completely out of context. I'm not going to be persecuted for being the only person to claim to use an ability, is my main issue with your suggestion. And this is NOT a mass claim either, get that out of your head. Besides even if it were a mass claim like you fear, how would that benefit the Mafia? They already know who town is, and who the other mafis members are. That's the way it goes.

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If i'm the only guy who did anything Night 1, how does me claiming my character change anything when you already know that I have a vauge investigative role.

If you claimed and it's a nice claim then we'd be a bit more certain that you're for reals.

Wtf is a "nice claim"? A claim is a claim, I could literally say any Breaking Bad character and you'd just be like "oh ok cool w/e nice claim bro" and it would not have benefitted town at all. Interested in getting one of your mafia buddies to counter-claim the same character after I do? That's the only reason I can think of for you being insistent on getting a character claim from someone who hasn't really done anything to deserve the hotseat, unlike Axel's case.

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State whether or not you used an ability.

I think the players themselves can be left to decide when and how to reveal their Night 1 actions.

Generic "i have the town's best interest in mind I promise guys for real" line

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We chose to No Lynch so we could use the tools available to us to assist in digging up scum since our leads ran dry.

Yes, but this doesn't mean everyone needs to claim what they did. There already has been a prodigious amount of talk about Night actions for now, and I don't see why we should rush other players to divulge their night actions.


There hasn't though, and I'm talking about being unnecessarily secretive about a night action, because idk if you noticed but the game has been at a standstill. If you think pressuring people to explain what happened overnight after a week of inactivity then i'm not sure what to tell you. Silence is the mafia's best friend, we all need to be as vocal as we can if we are to figure anything out.


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