1.0.2 BBM struggled with Chibi Robo because of the disjoints Chibi has, giving absolutely no time for Bomberman to setup or land a hit.

this is my first time making a MU Chart. i'm making this MU Chart based on my experience on the online mode any help is welcome.


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Kirby loses to bandana dee 60:40. Dee has the disjoints to beat out Kirby's moves and kirby heavily struggles against disjoints. Kirby has trouble getting in since Dee can just space fair and neutral b.

I think Kirby goes 45-55 against Dee. Dee has pretty bad range and about as many disjoints as Kirby. Dee has good kill power (bair, dthrow, dspec, fsmash), but Kirby's kill options are often better in my opinion (utilt>hammer, bair, fsmash). I think Dee only wins because of his projectiles, but the m/u is mostly stage-dependent.

My Kirby MU as of 1.0.3.2 so far. Feel free to kindly criticize it (or roast it).

What gives such an advantage over ?

From what I've heard Luigi got nerfed as he has no combos now. Luigi has no approach options and Fireball wouldve been good if projectiles werent universally nerfed, so Kirby can easily beat out fireball. Also Kirby has better apporach options that Luigi and has a better time killing.

Have a Week 1 Chibi MU chart that I threw together in like 5 minutes

Believe it or not, this is not satire

Bruh you make look like a monster anyway i want to know what give such a big advantage against ?

Chibi/Lloyd is one of those MUs that will always suck for Chibi simply due to the way both characters are designed. Lloyd is faster than Chibi both in terms of mobility and frame data, Lloyd has more range for the most part, wins neutral for free due to the aforementioned speed+range advantage ontop of having the most abusable projectile in the game. You know you are in trouble when Chibi can get outcamped with little effort. Then Lloyd has a brutal punish game on Chibi, because ya know, everyone has Chibi does require notably less hits to get the kill because Uair is a godsend, but even that is not enough to keep the punish game even, let alone tilt it in Chibis favour.

Offstage kinda sucks for both - Lloyds recovery is meh at best and Chibi is one of the most threatening edgeguarders in the game, but Lloyd just so happens to be arguably the best char at edgeguarding Chibi himself - Fair just shuts me down entirely offstage sans an extremely low recovery.


tl;dr~ Chibi loses the neutral game hard, is slower overall, gets outcamped, outpunished and our busted recovery is basically invalidated. A s*** MU by sheer design, kinda like Sora/Samus

I'm legitimately surprised that you put Lloyd as dependent on port priority. Surely his neutral and edgeguarding utterly crush Sandbag who struggles both in neutral and offstage?

I probably should've clarified
Every matchup but Luffy is a losing one either way
Giving Sandbag port priority just makes it slightly less painful.
(And also I forgot Lloyd existed)

Look, i'm garbage at SSF2 and you shouldn't take this MU chart too seriously, but i didn't want to leave my (awful) BDee MU chart like that so I improved it, and i ask to a good BDee could you finish it? I would be really grateful if you finished

https://imgur.com/Td2ZYC9

BDee MU Chart
70-30: Black Mage, Jigglypuff, DK, Pichu, Goku
65-35:Kirby, Sonic, Zelda, Sandbag, Mega Man
60-40: Game and Watch, Naruto, Fox, Ness
55-45: Sora, Ness,Isaac, Bomberman, Pit
50-50: Wario,Zero Suit, Yoshi, Bowser
45-55: Marth, Mario, Tails, Link, Ichigo
40-60: Lloyd, Pikachu, Falco, PAC-MAN, Luigi, Peach
30-70: Meta Knight, Chibi-Robo, Sheik