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Here's my tier list. Sorry for being cancerous at my TL for v0.9b

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Honestly, i don't really have a main.
Tails is nice. And marth. So i guess i like... combos?
And floatyness i guess.

Wow they actually fixed Ness' throw. kinda

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Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:28 pm
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Gregory Goku wrote:
Here's my tier list. Sorry for being cancerous at my TL for v0.9b

How dare you compare :blackmage: to :kirby: and :yoshi: !

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Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:51 pm
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Hey guys, I've tried all of the characters a fair bit at this point and was wondering if someone could help me answer this: why isn't Tails considered too good?

Am I the only one who thinks his recovery is completely ridiculous and Side B (that command grab that pretty much insta-kills like half the cast) is broken? On top of strong combo game, aerial game, projectile, kill power... what makes any other character in the cast better than him?


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Kaldra wrote:
Hey guys, I've tried all of the characters a fair bit at this point and was wondering if someone could help me answer this: why isn't Tails considered completely broken and overpowered?

Am I the only one who thinks his recovery is completely ridiculous and Side B (that command grab that pretty much insta-kills like half the cast) is broken? On top of amazing combo game, aerial game, projectile, kill power... what makes any other character in the cast better than him? People seem to think Fox is OP but I can't see why.


Tails is really good, yes, but it's hard to see him ahead of characters like :goku:, who has one of the best comeback factors in the game with Kaio-Ken.

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Gregory Goku wrote:
Here's my tier list. Sorry for being cancerous at my TL for v0.9b

Black Mage is not worse than Kirby lmao

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Ok. Gregory,
Just give :blackmage: a fair chance. You'll find that he's an insanely fun fighter who has a lot of early killing options, good combo game, decent recovery, and some character.

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Okay, people. I've done some fixes to it. Hope it's acceptable now and I didn't make it worse in any possible way.


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Out of curiosity, why is it S through K?

As a general question, why does everyone think Fox is top 3?

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Out of curiosity, why is it S through K?

For a large part of SSF2 Kirby was bottom tier, multiple tier lists consecutively.
So the very bottom tier got the nickname Kirby tier, which later was shortened to just K.

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Honestly, i don't really have a main.
Tails is nice. And marth. So i guess i like... combos?
And floatyness i guess.

Wow they actually fixed Ness' throw. kinda

PICHU HYPEexcept not yet /:|


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Riddul wrote:
As a general question, why does everyone think Fox is top 3?

Because his camping and rushdown ability is very strong and only got buffed from v0.9b to Beta. It's very easy to multi-shine and pull combos out of it, due to buffering. He has good KO options with B-Air and U-Air. Down-B also reflects projectiles (which are very strong and important at the current meta) and has invincibility for a short time.

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Why is Bomberman so low, Falco and Isaac so high?

In as much as Falco can kill early, it can be deadly to lose neutral once or get grabbed. He's like Fox but can't abuse Uair/Usmash and with worse recovery/ground speed.

Isaac is relatively slow, depending on unsafe kill setups that can be subject to DI/easily punished. He has good tools, but he has clear flaws that can be abused.

Bomberman has a great "projectile" and really solid punish/combo game that can kill early. Literally his 2 downsides are recovery (horizontally, but his good air speed helps) and weight (but his survivability is high, and semi-spikes/gimps are farther and fewer between in Beta).


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Said "projectile" also has the downsides of regular projectiles, requires detonation else it's basically useless, gets outcamped by other projectile characters, can actually kill him accidentally, deals little percent for a lengthy charge time, etc

Bomberman's kill moves and combo tools are also vastly inferior to high tiers and still outclassed by mid tiers, lack of disjoints really hurt him the same way Jiggs, Wario, and Sandbag does except they're either faster and/or kills earlier

I mean, how many of BBM's kill moves kill earlier than 100% ?

And no, I play bomberman so you can't say that I don't play bomberman

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Jan_Solo wrote:
Said "projectile" also has the downsides of regular projectiles, requires detonation else it's basically useless, gets outcamped by other projectile characters, can actually kill him accidentally, deals little percent for a lengthy charge time, etc

Bomberman's kill moves and combo tools are also vastly inferior to high tiers and still outclassed by mid tiers, lack of disjoints really hurt him the same way Jiggs, Wario, and Sandbag does except they're either faster and/or kills earlier

I mean, how many of BBM's kill moves kill earlier than 100% ?

And no, I play bomberman so you can't say that I don't play bomberman


To be frank, you also have 2 mains, 3 other secondaries, and 4 "for fun", so I'm not terribly sure how dedicated you can actually be to the character to where you can confidently understand his gameplay, faults, and advantages in particular MUs.

I really don't see how his combo tools are vastly inferior when his throws are good, his aerials lead consistently to follow-ups, and D-tilt and U-tilt are things. He has little trouble popping people into the air, and just tossing small bombs can really frustrate what opponents can do since his aerial speed/control is so good. Not to mention good frame data on his aerials and some of his ground moves. Dsmash, Uair, Fair can all kill before 100% in proper setup, which isn't really hard to do when small bomb + detonate makes it free.

Detonate is not a requirement for bombs to be useful. Bomb kick is insanely useful now, and just bopping people with small bombs can be enough to win neutral and land grabs.


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Manta wrote:
Why is Bomberman so low, Falco and Isaac so high?

In as much as Falco can kill early, it can be deadly to lose neutral once or get grabbed. He's like Fox but can't abuse Uair/Usmash and with worse recovery/ground speed.

Isaac is relatively slow, depending on unsafe kill setups that can be subject to DI/easily punished. He has good tools, but he has clear flaws that can be abused.

Bomberman has a great "projectile" and really solid punish/combo game that can kill early. Literally his 2 downsides are recovery (horizontally, but his good air speed helps) and weight (but his survivability is high, and semi-spikes/gimps are farther and fewer between in Beta).


Maybe Falco is worse, but everyone below him is worse than him. Maybe I can make a "S" rank about him and Isaac.
Isaac is a middleheavy, it's kinda hard to KO him. He's also not that slow, and due to the projectile physics, it's really easy to spam some moves and win a match. He has a lot of options and "unsafe kill setups"? Just catch someone with Growth and then U-Smash. KO at 70%

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