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MG Mafia XVII: JoJo's Bizarre Mafia (Fin) 

Who should host next game?
Poll ended at Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:48 pm
CXCIV - Turnabout Mafia (Ace Attorney) 63%  63%  [ 12 ]
Terra - All-stars 2 (Roles based on previous mafia game roles) 11%  11%  [ 2 ]
TheOneWhoKnocks - DotA-themed Mafia (Roles based on heroes from the games) 16%  16%  [ 3 ]
Axel - Kibgdom Hearts Mafia (uPick setup) 11%  11%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 19

MG Mafia XVII: JoJo's Bizarre Mafia (Fin) 
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Could you elaborate on your Role-Blocking? What does the flavor text say?


Also, what made you think DJ was Mafia?


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1)Not sure what you mean with flavor text.
2)The way he was playing made me think he was mafia like the way he kept talking about the dection/194 scum.It wasn't the best move but at the time i thought it was actually good.

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DJ Wizard Cop wrote:
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I'm Okuyasu Nijimura and i'm a roleblocker.

THAT claim makes no sense. Correct me if I'm wrong but from what I've read Okuyasu has no abilities and his stand has nothing resembling role blocking.

I'm pretty sure that if Speedwagon wanted to have a town roleblocker, there were tons of other options to chose from.


I don't really buy the claim at all.

My reasoning is because it would be we messed up if the Town was armed with both a regular roleblocker and a reviver/roleblocker.

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1)Not sure what you mean with flavor text.

It's the description of your ability. You know, when you received your Role Ability, it probably said something like "[Ability name]: [Description]", right? The flavor text refers to the description part. How do you Role-Block? Do you set up a trap? Do you encase the targeted player in ice? And so on.

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My reasoning is because it would be we messed up if the Town was armed with both a regular roleblocker and a reviver/roleblocker.


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Thomas Terminator wrote:
DJ Wizard Cop wrote:
RG4L | Champ wrote:
I'm Okuyasu Nijimura and i'm a roleblocker.

THAT claim makes no sense. Correct me if I'm wrong but from what I've read Okuyasu has no abilities and his stand has nothing resembling role blocking.

I'm pretty sure that if Speedwagon wanted to have a town roleblocker, there were tons of other options to chose from.


I don't really buy the claim at all.

My reasoning is because it would be we messed up if the Town was armed with both a regular roleblocker and a reviver/roleblocker.


You aren't saying what I just read, right?

We don't have three roleblockers, no. That's stupid. Tell me we read it wrong.

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CXCIV wrote:
Thomas Terminator wrote:
DJ Wizard Cop wrote:
RG4L | Champ wrote:
I'm Okuyasu Nijimura and i'm a roleblocker.

THAT claim makes no sense. Correct me if I'm wrong but from what I've read Okuyasu has no abilities and his stand has nothing resembling role blocking.

I'm pretty sure that if Speedwagon wanted to have a town roleblocker, there were tons of other options to chose from.


I don't really buy the claim at all.

My reasoning is because it would be we messed up if the Town was armed with both a regular roleblocker and a reviver/roleblocker.


You aren't saying what I just read, right?

We don't have three roleblockers, no. That's stupid. Tell me we read it wrong.


Thomas Terminator wrote:
I'm Giorno Giovanna. I'm a town miller due to being Dio's son. I also have the ability to revive the fallen due to my kindness or roleblock the living.


I confirmed earlier when I claimed my role that I have the ability to roleblock the living.

But, the only restriction for me is that I can only do one action per night, So I can either revive the dead, or roleblock the living.

and if my counting is correct, that adds up to three roleblockers, who are:

194 - Roleblocker
Champ - Roleblocker
Me - Reviver/Roleblocker

So, either this role comp is really messed up, or someone is pulling everyone's leg.

Pre-edit: Spell check. Two I's together doesn't make any sense.

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1)Not sure what you mean with flavor text.

It's the description of your ability. You know, when you received your Role Ability, it probably said something like "[Ability name]: [Description]", right? The flavor text refers to the description part. How do you Role-Block? Do you set up a trap? Do you encase the targeted player in ice? And so on.


oh ok i remove the player from space with my elimination of space ability and i prevent him from using his night action.

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No, this is silly.

First, any moderator with a grasp of what he's doing will realize that, between reviving and roleblocking, reviving is a better option, especially since the game is role-reveal, and therefore, picking who to revive is almost a no-brainer.

Second, with this, we basically have four roleblockers claimed.
-Geno (claimed one-shot, conf 3P might be lying)
-194 (claimed jailkeeper)
-T_T (claimed roleblocker/reviver)
- Champ (claimed roleblocker)

It would make no sense to have two roleblockers on the same alignment, left alone three. One of us must be non-town.

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Geno died why would you put him there when its confirmed he was lying?

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I don't know if this pattern is actually relevant, but Geno's claimed character was an antagonist for a while, then got good, and he flipped 3P. Champ's claimed character also started as an antagonist and became a good guy

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I don't know if this pattern is actually relevant, but Geno's claimed character was an antagonist for a while, then got good, and he flipped 3P. Champ's claimed character also started as an antagonist and became a good guy


I'd rather avoid this, or it will turn into Breaking Bad Mafia all over again.

"Walter White is not maf" "Walter White must be maf".

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Please answer my questions.

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C'mon 194, your new avi is nice but you've had boatloads of time and have deliberately ignored my questions.

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DJ Wizard Cop wrote:
@194: I find your lack of conviction behind your reads disturbing. It makes them sound made up.

Your reads do not line up with your actions.
Your only conclusive read is on Champ, and yet I have seen you put absolutely no pressure on him nor try to validate your read by asking him questions and forcing him to produce original content.


Pretty much everything I've said so far in the game has backfired. I wouldn't be surprised if, after putting pressure on Champ, I was quickvoted because I'm using a newb player to take attention out of myself.

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How do you get a scum read on TOWK if Deph confirmed Joseph to be in the game and TOWK is uncounterclaimed?

You have a town read on me and I'm an uncounterclaimed jailkeeper.

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How do you get a null read on Brik if he claimed not-town?


Because it's brik. He could perfectly be pulling this for reasons unknown. Even when he claimed not town nobody knows if he's actually Mafia or 3P.

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What do you mean by "Town makes the most sense for your alignment"?

You have taken control of the discussion and lead the scumhunting. If you are scum, bravo, I completely fell for it. But Town is far more reasonable to assume.

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What is the reasoning behind your Thomas read?

For an uncounterclaimed and practically confirmed overpowered role, he hasn't taken the role he could. He could be far more agressive, or analytical, and cooperate more. But he appears reactive, and letting stuff be, limiting himself to revive people and nothing else. He appears to me like the typical player who believes his night action is his only contribution.

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I know for a fact that you find information from roles to be inferior to information from the game thread.
If Arthur has a good claim but bad post game, how do you get a town read on him?

KA's post game is indeed subpar, but at least to me, it doesn't appear lazy. If he was noticeably playing subpar and not trying to do something better, he would most certainly be scum. But he actually looks like he's trying. That, and the claim, give him his current town read.

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CXCIV wrote:
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How do you get a scum read on TOWK if Deph confirmed Joseph to be in the game and TOWK is uncounterclaimed?

You have a town read on me and I'm an uncounterclaimed jailkeeper.
Did you mean to say that DJ has a scum read on you?

Either way, I think you're missing the point. TOWK claimed an obviously town role that was confirmed to be in the game by two players, one of which is dead and confirmed town. If you can justify a scum read on this guy I will be impressed.

You, on the other hand, are nowhere near being uncounterclaimed. Three people claim to have roleblocking abilities. At least one, if not two of them, are scum. Thomas is an uncounterclaimed reviver that has demonstrated his abilities. That leaves you and Champ. One of the two is mafia. There is no getting around that. I have a suspicion that it is you.

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