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You have a source for the Brawl one?

And for a character like this, I'm fairly certain. She's barely a clone character, even Sakurai compares her to alt costumes. All they need is, what, a new model, some minor property changes, the new audio and a set of trophies? If all the clones are like Lucina then they'll require very little programming, likely no extra animation and very little balancing, since balance changes to Marth will be applied equally to Lucina

If they're all glorified alts like Lucy is then yeah, modeling, programming and animating an assist from scratch seems like it would take more timem

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I don't feel like getting a source but you can look yourself if you want.

And no, on top of the model (which is significantly more detailed than an assist trophy), tweaks to every single attack not only in property but in animation, all of the sound work for the character, the new animations that still come with clones like win animations, taunts and whatnot, even designing trophies or whatever I would think it's a much larger workload still. Assist trophies usually come out and do one action.

I can understand why it might seem like less work but I don't think so.


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Their attributes are the exact same, that's what I meant.

Oh I'm sorry, which build of ssb4 was sent to your house?

No, but from the description given, the two characters are the same.

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mightyXtreme wrote:
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Their attributes are the exact same, that's what I meant.

Oh I'm sorry, which build of ssb4 was sent to your house?

No, but from the description given, the two characters are the same.

Pretty sure Roy is slower than Marth

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mightyXtreme wrote:
Dr.Geno wrote:
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Their attributes are the exact same, that's what I meant.

Oh I'm sorry, which build of ssb4 was sent to your house?

No, but from the description given, the two characters are the same.

Maybe they're similar in that they're both clones of Marth, but that doesn't mean they're going to play the same at all. Especially given lucina's power is balanced whereas Roy's was at the base.


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Hey Geno, I was looking at your roster prediction (about time you finally put names) and I noticed you expect Falco to be cut, am I right? and Isaac? really? well, at least you don't expect Ridley.

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Hey Geno, I was looking at your roster prediction (about time you finally put names) and I noticed you expect Falco to be cut, am I right? and Isaac? really? well, at least you don't expect Ridley.


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I think he has a chance to be cut, and he didn't fit in to my grid so I didn't put his name. And yeah, I think Isaac has a really fair shot of making it in to the game.


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Dr.Geno wrote:
mightyXtreme wrote:
Dr.Geno wrote:
mightyXtreme wrote:
Their attributes are the exact same, that's what I meant.

Oh I'm sorry, which build of ssb4 was sent to your house?

No, but from the description given, the two characters are the same.

Maybe they're similar in that they're both clones of Marth, but that doesn't mean they're going to play the same at all. Especially given lucina's power is balanced whereas Roy's was at the base.

Not to mention how Lucina seems to be lighter and quicker than Marth from what I can tell.

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Genis wrote:
Dr.Geno wrote:
mightyXtreme wrote:
Dr.Geno wrote:
mightyXtreme wrote:
Their attributes are the exact same, that's what I meant.

Oh I'm sorry, which build of ssb4 was sent to your house?

No, but from the description given, the two characters are the same.

Maybe they're similar in that they're both clones of Marth, but that doesn't mean they're going to play the same at all. Especially given lucina's power is balanced whereas Roy's was at the base.

Not to mention how Lucina seems to be lighter and quicker than Marth from what I can tell.

Which might mean she could be weaker than him too.

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Pretty sure he said she'd be stronger by using the full blade rather than the tip of the blade like marth,

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Her strengh is balanced through the blade while Marth strengh is concentrated at the tip of the blade.
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My thoughts:
Her attacks will be stronger, racking up damage faster but will not get Marth's finisher tip of the blade. Lucina is a normal swordfighter.

A (tiny-little) stronger Marth without his sweetspots. - Lucina

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based on the trailer she definitely doesn't seem faster than Marth... I think she might come with the melee Neutral B though considering the removal of the tipper, since she's more of a slasher than a fencer It'd make sense. But based on what I've seen in the trailer, UpB and her elegant spotdodge are the only things that look any different.

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"Pic of the day. The Levin sword and tomes are Robin's life lines. The Levin sword can be activated by using smash attacks--you can even activate these moves in midair! However, just like in the original game, the Levin sword can be used only a limited number of times before it breaks, at which point it takes some time to regenerate. When the Levin sword is unavailable, Robin fights using the bronze sword."

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"The way Robin launches Arcfire is kind of crazy—he or she calls down a bolt of flame from above, then launches a pillar of fire! By the way, Robin’s tome changes with each special attack."


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Franziska von Karma wrote:
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"Pic of the day. The Levin sword and tomes are Robin's life lines. The Levin sword can be activated by using smash attacks--you can even activate these moves in midair! However, just like in the original game, the Levin sword can be used only a limited number of times before it breaks, at which point it takes some time to regenerate. When the Levin sword is unavailable, Robin fights using the bronze sword."

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"The way Robin launches Arcfire is kind of crazy—he or she calls down a bolt of flame from above, then launches a pillar of fire! By the way, Robin’s tome changes with each special attack."

Damn it beat me to it.

This looks awesome.

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