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Ikuyo
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OK, another question:
Why JC and not Shoop? Out of the Ike duo, Shoop was the most interesting of them, meaning, he was the one drawing our attention. Protecting JC wasn't that needed compared to Shoop.
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| Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:23 am |
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Dephius
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In all honesty 135 I've only been loosely following the game. I'd like to get an ISO or something as well as those reads you asked for later today. No lynching please.
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| Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:04 am |
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Dephius
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194 If you're not still set in self hammering I'll ISO you.
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| Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:05 am |
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DJ Wizard Cop
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Working on an uber post but here's an interesting tid bit while you wait.  | | | | 194 wrote: OK, I will explain myself. I was waiting for Day 3 but I guess the sooner, the better.
I'm Popo, the leader of the Ice Climbers. In Night 1, I was given the chance to pick any player to become Nana. The alliance with Nana would give me a roleblocking ability (Blizzard) at the cost of creating a one-and-a-half lovers bond: If Nana dies, I'll become a vanilla player. If Popo (me) dies, Nana will die with me. Also, this bond would allow both of us to talk at night. The moderator hasn't informed either part of the alignment of each other, so Terra is not confirmed on my end.
I visited Terra last night and since then, he's my Nana. I suspect him as one of the scum members, which pretty much means I hold him hostage. That is, from my point of view, the reason Mafia hasn't speedlynched me: if they do, they lose Terra. | | | | |
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| Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:11 am |
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DJ Wizard Cop
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Here's a compilation of the reads of everyone who posted them in a big post on Day 1. I have yet to analyze them but now that we know that Lucina, Arthur and Shoop were town, this is a goldmine for information. | | | | TheOneWhoKnocks wrote: These are my reads so far
1. [:] - Confirmed
While I don't agree with his Pvoting idea, I don't really think scum would suggest that, so null-town for now.
2. Lucina - Confirmed
Mostly null, maybe a little town
3. 194 - Confirmed
Been trying to keep the game going, been contributing nicely. Prob town
4. Dephius - Confirmed
I can never f#%$& tell with this guy unless he does something super scummy, so he'll probably remain null until that happens
5. Blood - Confirmed
Didn't like his "RVS because whatever" post, and don't like his excuse of reaction test. Scummy
6. Thomas Terminator - Confirmed
Has he even said anything yet I can't remember. Null
7. Mr. Flash & Flame - Confirmed
Same as TT
8. King Kyuubit - Confirmed
Meh, he's been pretty active and hasn't done anything to irk me. Null-town
9. Mr. Shoop - Confirmed
I didn't like that "joke" of his earlier, which sounded a lot like rolefishing to me. Of course it is Shoop so Null-Scum
10. Terra - Confirmed
Definitely gonna keep my eye on him, because I don't like his 1st (which he's asked already) and 2nd RQS questions. Null-Scum
11. JamesClyde - Confirmed
I don't remember really anything he's said. Null
12. King Arthur - Confirmed
Another guy I can't really ever read correctly. Null
14. Dr. Geno - Confirmed
Whom I guess is Den now, I don't remember him saying anything except hello. Null
15. Krillin III
Just found out he's in the game I guess lol. Null | | | | |
| | | | Lucina wrote: Gonna go ahead and post my reads. 1. [:] - A true enigma. I wouldn't have put F&F at risk like that. Then again, I'm not a very good mafia player. Null leaning towards town
2. Lucina - Town Marth and that's all you need to know.
3. 194 - I don't agree with most things he says. Null leaning towards scum
4. Dephius - Was okay with Flash & Flame blowing up on the spot, though I guess he changed his attitude. Null
5. Blood - Doesn't seem to think JC and Shoop are town. I say that there are way too many scummy people in this game for them to take up half the mafia. Null
6. Thomas Terminator - Happy birthday man. Post more please
7. Mr. Flash & Flame - Inactive, but not in the scummy sense. Null
8. King Kyuubit - A post here, a post there, posts here and there. Null
9. Mr. Shoop - Confirmed Ike, attracted a lot of attention earlier. Null leaning towards town
10. Terra - Is contributing well imo. And not in the "Hey I'm doing this just so you'll trust me, heh heh" kind of way. Leaning towards town.
11. JamesClyde - Confirmed other Ike, hasn't done much except pass the bomb to his bro lol. Null
12. King Arthur - Is playing bad scum or playing really bad town. Leaning towards scum
13. TheOneWhoKnocks - Just seems to me like he's putting up an act. Null
14. Densetsu - Just replaced Ramsey ;_; haven't seen much. Null
15. Krillin III - Has been wrong with most things he says, which makes me wonder where the skills he was talking about, are. Leaning towards scum | | | | |
[/box] | | | | 194 wrote: 1. [:] - Null/Null. He is moving the game, but this bomb drama has me watching him.
2. Lucina - Slight scum. Also, yes, I knew you were going to play as Marth anyway, but there was no need to bring this attention to yourself when we have bigger fish to fry.
3. 194 - obvscum lynch pls
4. Dephius - Hasn't done much, leaning towards scum because town deph tends to be more active.
5. Blood - Null, this guy could be anything. I'm waiting for you to contribute more.
6. Thomas Terminator - He's playing? Null
7. Mr. Flash & Flame - Came around really confused. Make sure to get into the game as fast as you can.
8. King Kyuubit - Looks town to me, playing observant and smart.
9. Mr. Shoop - Confirmed Ike is confirmed.
10. Terra - I fee you need to play "real" a bit, I'm missing you a bit.
11. JamesClyde - Confirmed Ike is confirmed.
12. King Arthur - Null.
13. TheOneWhoKnocks - Null, slight slight slight town, but I'm not convinced yet
14. Dr. Geno - I miss you =(
15. Krillin III - Dude, please plugin into this game, the sooner the better. | | | | |
| | | | [:] wrote: Reads they are mine: show : Tier 1 leaning tier 2 (leaning tier 3)
2. Lucina - Confirmed
Town leaning null, arguments I agree with, slight tinge of being careful but only slight.
3. 194 - Confirmed
Scum leaning null, no body to his posts.
4. Dephius - Confirmed
What on earth leaning town, occasional nonsensical ramblings, ridiculously scummy posts combined with generic Dephius.
Logic dictates that he is scummy but my scumdar says otherwise.
5. Blood - Confirmed
Null leaning town, slightly watery posts, contributing.
6. Thomas Terminator - Confirmed
Null leaning null for too long, leaning a smidgen to the scum side because he's been online on Skype most of the day and hasn't posted anything of great viscosity during the whole game.
7. Mr. Flash & Flame - Confirmed
Null leaning null because there's nothing to read.
8. King Kyuubit - Confirmed
Null leaning null leaning town. Post style is the same as town Kyuubit, but about 20% as active and 30% as beneficial to the town.
9. Mr. Shoop - Confirmed
Town leaning on the scummy side of null, big fiasco about his role, but confirmed by another player. Possible Terra from Special, otherwise not much to go off.
10. Terra - Confirmed
Null leaning on the townie side of town. Been helping a bit but posts haven't gotten the town as far along as I'd like.
11. JamesClyde - Confirmed
Town leaning on the townie side of null, hasn't contributed much except one exchange with someone I don't remember. Confirmed Ike.
12. King Arthur - Confirmed
Scum leaning scum leaning inexperienced town. Too much splenda, too much using R to jump on people (I'm sorry your avi reminds me of J4) not enough Demacian Standard.
13. TheOneWhoKnocks - Confirmed
Mistery leaning scum. Strong scum read for the majority of the game until I re-read his posts by themselves. I think he looks more scummy in context.
14. Densetsu - Confirmed
>Bookshelf
>Will you search the Bookshelf?
>Yes / No
>| Yes |
> ...
>You find nothing of interest.
15. Krillin III - Confirmed
What on earth leaning inexperienced town leaning scum. If this guy is scum and he is not dumb scum then he is an absolute genius and should be voted mafia player of the year.
Because he fakes clueless somethingorother really well. | | | | Part of an earlier post I never posted wrote: | | | | 194 wrote: 1. [:] - Null/Null. He is moving the game, but this bomb drama has me watching him.
First you were watching me about Pseudovotes, but now that isn't bothering you?
2. Lucina - Slight scum. Also, yes, I knew you were going to play as Marth anyway, but there was no need to bring this attention to yourself when we have bigger fish to fry.
Which bigger fish?
3. 194 - obvscum lynch pls
Mm
4. Dephius - Hasn't done much, leaning towards scum because town deph tends to be more active.
5. Blood - Null, this guy could be anything. I'm waiting for you to contribute more.
Blood has posted less than most people but he's contributed more than most people.
6. Thomas Terminator - He's playing? Null
7. Mr. Flash & Flame - Came around really confused. Make sure to get into the game as fast as you can.
8. King Kyuubit - Looks town to me, playing observant and smart.
Never seen a scum Kyuubit so it's hard to tell. I'm not convinced. He isn't really playing Mafia, he's playing posts on a forum.
9. Mr. Shoop - Confirmed Ike is confirmed.
10. Terra - I fee you need to play "real" a bit, I'm missing you a bit.
Dunno. I get a town vibe from Terra but I haven't seen much scum Terra.
11. JamesClyde - Confirmed Ike is confirmed.
12. King Arthur - Null.
King Arthur keeps jumping on people for no reason.
13. TheOneWhoKnocks - Null, slight slight slight town, but I'm not convinced yet
14. Dr. Geno - I miss you =(
;c
15. Krillin III - Dude, please plugin into this game, the sooner the better. | | | | |
@Deph: Could you rephrase that please? @194: Could you please please start making your own posts instead of criticizing everyone else's? @Lucina: Going to play the Brik is my brother card here and say I knew he was at a fencing camp and I know he probably wouldn't have let us kill anyone for being inactive. TOWK I can't tell if you're scum or not if you keep being hard to read. Honestly. | | | | |
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| | | | Mr. Shoop wrote: Oboe reeds, sax reeds, clarinet reeds, get them here: show Reeds. Reads. I'm hilarious.
Town: None
Leaning Town: Lucina, [:], Terra, JC
Null Read: Krillin, Densetsu, Dephius, Thomas Terminator, Kyuubit, 194, Blood
Leaning Scum: Arthur, TOWK, Flash & Flame
Scum: None
I do not have concrete proof yet that JC is my double, so for now he is not confirmed in my book. We'll see about this.
Flash & Flame has been pretty quiet.
Arthur and TOWK seemed to be buddying during the whole fiasco about my role. | | | | |
| | | | Dephius wrote: In no particular order: show Town: 194, Lucina, Kyuubit, TOWK
Null: Blood, JC, Shoop, F&F, Densetsu, Terra, Thomas Terminator, DJ, Arthur
Scum: Krillin | | | | |
| | | | King Arthur wrote: | | | | King Arthur wrote: Some quick reads:
194: Trying to get the game going, I've got a town read on him.
Terra: Honestly the same as 194, doing a psuedovote count, and brought up those questions, town read right here.
Kyuubit: Had some very good, logical, and well-thought-out answers to the questions. Leaning towards town.
Blood: Claiming a double-vote post as a reaction test was really scummy, and while claiming it as a way to gain pressure makes sense, any scum member could also just throw that on there. Before I say anything about you being scum or town, I need a bit more information.
Everybody else: Post a bit more, please. | | | | |
My early reads for comparison. 194: You've kinda moved from town to null, not really getting the game going anymore. Terra: Still a slight town read, because of the psuedovote count. Kyuubit: See my reads before. Blood: Tried to get some pressure on everybody, slight-town. Shoop: You're confirmed Ike, but roles went out AFTER ALIGNMENTS, you could both be town, both be scum, or one of you could be TP. Also that feeling when you find out we're in the same state, iirc you mentioned something about Ohio weather a few timesJC: ^^^^^ [:]: A really experience Mafia player who seems to be scumhunting, thinks I'm scummy but I'm fairly stupid at the start of most games so w/e, but throwing the bomb at F&F was fairly scummy. Lucina: That read on TOWK and I buddying was kinda scummy. F&F: Null Thomas Terminator: Happy birthday, pal/Null post more please. Dephius: I honestly want to think town, but a few more posts would help out. Krillin: Forgot about Mafia 5, not taking this seriously, kinda scummy. Geno/Densetsu: COME BACK TO THE FORUMS/Null | | | | |
| | | | Terra wrote: @194: Possibly because I'm taking a more observing style instead of tunneling and trying to get my suspects lynched through sheer force of will alone.
Readz:
Town(S>W):DJ, TOWK, 194, JC.
Null(Town>Scum): Luc, Kyuubit, Shoop, F&F, Deph, Den, Blood, Thomas.
Scum(S>W): Arthur, Krillin.
194's play is less active but more perceptive, unlike the usually observant, rushing 194-scum that I played with in 11. 194 could play like this though: I am wary of purposeful shifts in playstyle.
I read DJ as town. Pretty active play, been contributing well in some areas but eh.
Luc and Blood are people I've played with before, and looking at their past games Luc is playing like 14 and Blood is playing like in 14 as well. I mean town Blood would be more observant(see All-Stars), but it's too early to make conclusions.
Arthur I have explained, but I'll get into a long newbtown/newbscum rant soon.
At this point a lot of my reads are null, so don't take this too seriously as of yet. | | | | |
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135
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Hm, reading...well, reads. So far, I noticed Terra had had a Town read on 194 even before Day 2? Seems like he thought 194 is Town-Sided all along?
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| Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:53 pm |
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Dephius
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Glad someone did this. I was getting sick of Shoops joking.FoS and Pseudovote are essentially the same thing. At first i agreed with this, but it does seem like a trick Blood would do. Although his "reaction-test" excuse did seem pretty convienent.Why not? There's always some joker who throws his votes around.I should use this against DJ more often, I hate his votes that pop up out of nowhere with no explanation, especially here where we can't unvote.194 really is trying to get Shoop to take the game seriously. This post, along with about 70 others complaining about inactivity are towntells.True, look at DJ when he passed the bomb to Flash and Flame.Goodie, I was hoping someone would use the bomb on te VI.This post made me realize Terra falls back on meta alot.I don't see how a simple misunderstanding is him playing a fool. | | | | 194 wrote: >I did visit a person >but they also have 10% >a person >they So, how many people did you visit last night? | | | | |
| | | | 194 wrote: OK, I will explain myself. I was waiting for Day 3 but I guess the sooner, the better.
I'm Popo, the leader of the Ice Climbers. In Night 1, I was given the chance to pick any player to become Nana. The alliance with Nana would give me a roleblocking ability (Blizzard) at the cost of creating a one-and-a-half lovers bond: If Nana dies, I'll become a vanilla player. If Popo (me) dies, Nana will die with me. Also, this bond would allow both of us to talk at night. The moderator hasn't informed either part of the alignment of each other, so Terra is not confirmed on my end.
I visited Terra last night and since then, he's my Nana. I suspect him as one of the scum members, which pretty much means I hold him hostage. That is, from my point of view, the reason Mafia hasn't speedlynched me: if they do, they lose Terra. | | | | |
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Dephius
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194seems like he's out to help the town. With a believable claim to boot, I dunno why so many votes are on him.
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| Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:02 pm |
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TOWK
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Pretty sure they were all there before the claim, so obviously some people didn't agree he was helping the town
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| Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:25 pm |
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Ikuyo
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Hmm... I have my doubts with Terra's claim. I'm not fully convinced of it. It sounds like the usual gimmick of "super powerful but hard to prove role" scum pulls when forced to claim. I'd like your opinions on it, to see if I hammer or not.
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Densetsu
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IIRC the idea was that because of a lot of inconsistencies between Terra and 194 one of the two is likely scum, and lynching 194 would cause them both to die. Though I'm not sure why we're not just lynching Terra.
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| Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:23 pm |
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Ikuyo
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OK, you know what, I'll trust myself on this. I put this game in your hands, fellow players.
Vote: 194
Make sure to check on DJ Wiz, DR, Densetsu and Deph (lol D Mafia), oh and Kyuubit too. Blood and TOWK throw town light on all directions. I'm sure I'm doing the right thing here, and I hope to not be mistaken.
inb4 I fell straight into the Mafia's trap and we lost. I don't care, the risk had to be taken.
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135
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Farewell, 194.
Here's hoping things turn out as you planned them.
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| Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:14 pm |
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135
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Still wondering though, why didn't you just push for Terra Lynch?
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| Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:18 pm |
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Terra
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WHAT IN THE WORLD, 194? WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU DO SUCH A THING AS TO HAMMER YOURSELF
ARE YOU SERIOUS? AHGRJKWHAEKJHRKJEHFKJBK
*tries to calm down*
Allright, Serial Killer/Cultist/Inquisitor, please kill the mafia for us if you're still there. You're the only shot at stopping the mafia.
Refer to my reads for who I think is scum, and have fun trying to win when the town equals the mafia member's numbers.
194, you did bring this upon yourself.
We have a very slim chance of winning, but it's still a shot. Do your best, people: win for me.
Exeunt, mes amis.
~Terra
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