lmao, i just looked that up, that's fantastic
like i knew Falcon was underrated for a while but i never noticed he was lower than the Ganon Cannon
i gotta say though Jiggs and as of late Yoshi are really good examples too

also Jiggs had at least four years until people started noticing just how good it was in Melee. we had, what, 10 minutes of footage max of actual gameplay for Bayonetta and Corrin?

don't call jigglypuff an "it" that's rude as heck

What would you propose we call Jigglypuff then?
A he?
A she?
An it?
What do you think kb you biological genius?

Jigglypuff has a 75% chance of being female and a 25% chance of being male

Therefore we should use the pronoun "she" for Jigglypuff three times and then use the pronoun "he" the fourth time

Or we could ask the Jigglypuff what it identifies as

Bayonetta
Baeonetta
Waifunetta
Bootynetta
Dantenetta
Shantaenetta

i'm having so much fun with her.

if not for my broken gamepad charger i would still be playing

Might be kneejerk reaction-type thinking, but her Time Counter is f*** ridiculous

i wanna hate corrin so much but she is too fun for me to hate.

also Bayo's witch time is like the only way to land your smash attacks unless you catch the opponent off guard because her smash attacks are really easy to read and also leave her very open after she attacks

If you go off ledge and Dair there's a 80% chance of you not dying and that you've just spiked someone hard and that's ducking stylish as hell.
She reminds me of Dante a lot and I like that
Aaaand she has a little lil mac syndrome out side the stage it's awful. I haven't tried it but it feels like if someone were to hit her as she recovers then she's caca poopoo.

Downward After burner kick is very good to get some fast horizontal distance off stage. D-tilt -> F-air works on heavy or tall characters.
D-throw -> D-tilt -> F-air works on big characters
And you can just hold U-air or N-air to cover wide areas and even hit people that air dodge, as the dodge animation ends while you're still attacking.
As I stated first, you can also go off stage and D-air if you have your second jump: D-air -> UpB -> 2nd jump -> UpB (in the direction of the stage or you won't grab the ledge). EDIT: Jump and UpB cancels D-air animation.

As for damaging, I like to hold D-tilt since both her foot and hand shoot at the same time (10% damage) every other poses does 5% I believe. Such a STYLISH character I like that.

Oh and for some reason, you can activate Bats within from a shield/roll animation? IDK what happens but ok Sakurai, you do you.

Well considering that the games have been developed by the same creator (iirc) and have VERY similar gameplay, its no surprise

they don't really have "VERY similar gameplay" unless you just mean "they are in the same genre"

reminder that kamiya directed devil may cry 1 and devil may cry 1 only

Well, Bayonetta and Corrin are both pretty good characters I like both of them alot. What do you guys think of the new smash 4 tier list.

I assumed Waifunetta was god tier.
I was wrong.

Were you?

I mean I'm not a competitive player of course but she seems like a character with a lot of potential to me. Lots of options

High learning curve though. Probably not a great casual character. A bit like Ryu in that regard but not as extreme I think

You either master Bayonetta or you don't, and that's kinda what's turning me away from playing as her. She's super interesting but personally I can't bother to learn every little thing with how complicated she can get. She definitely can be scary in the right hands, can't make any assumptions this soon but I can definitely see her as high-tier.

Corrin, I absolutely love. She's super unique, I love how her down tilt sends the opponent in the air to follow up with up tilt, up air, forward air, etc. The one major problem I have with her is there's no manual cancel for her side-b, you have to wait the full 3 seconds for it to cancel itself and that's pretty terrible. Again too early to say but I'm calling possibly high E-tier.