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Meyguhmein
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Jump-cancel grab? What's that?
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YoloSwagginz
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You jump, but grab before you actually leave the ground. It causes you to slide and grab at the same time. It's mainly useful in Melee because it doesn't have as much ending lag as a dash grab. You can do it in SSF2 but there's no dash grabbing in this game so it's not as required.
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Meyguhmein
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I tried doing it in this game, but there doesn't seem to be any boost, just the same as a normal or a dash grab.
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YoloSwagginz
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Yea, it's main purpose is to avoid the heavy end lag of a dash grab. You still keep your grab range, so there's not much of a point to doing it in SSF2.
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:14 am |
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Starkiller
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Ok guys, what do you think: Does Marth have the longest non-tether grab? It seems like he has one of the longer grabs, and I did a little bit of testing and it appears that he and Lloyd have the same grab range.
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GreaterMaelstrom
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I'm guessing it's censored for you... ...upthrow
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Z A L O
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Herpestidae
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So I was getting used to Marth, and was up against CPU Jiggs. It's at, like, 70, and it decided to sing, so I decided to try and find the proper spacing for a tipper Fsmash And I found it. I mean, I presume I did, because Marth fell asleep halfway through the animation. MARTH HAS A HURTBOX ON HIS SWORD. Whose idea was that?
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Xyless
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Marth doesn't have a hurtbox on his sword, his arm probably got hit by the second Sing portion, which swings with her body.
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Herpestidae
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I have the replay. If I had some way to upload it, I would. But if Jiggs's Sing hitbox is  that big, it needs quite a nerf.
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Starkiller
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But its super easy to get out of if you mash.
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Herpestidae
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My point is that Jiggs was Singing, and Marth got caught in it when he swung his sword. His has also happened countless times against Wario's Side-B (Which the CPU is way too good at using to edgeguard, BTW), resulting in me getting hit in place of the other guy, from a distance that doesn't make any conceivable sense.
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Shine-chan
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That Wario Side-B statement so truuue. CPU Wario just spams it and I'm like  bruuuuh.
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Starkiller
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Haha I know that feels about Wario's side-b. the computer totally disrespecting with that XD Aha! You said that Marth was swinging his sword, so Marth's hurtbox was extended and that's how we was hit.
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Herpestidae
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Yes, but Why does he have a hurtbox on his sword? Like, at all? I mean, it's really silly that he can get hurt by somebody running shoulder-first into his sword, isn't it?
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Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:12 pm |
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