SSF2 Character Speculation
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Nonya
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Even so, specials are pretty damn important to a character. The way I've always looked at it, if they retain most moves, its a clone. If the normal moves have been changed around, but the specials remain the same, its a semi-clone.
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Kirb-Star
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Even so, only the Blaster and Wolf's Shine act similar to Fox, the others work completely different. Btw, None of Wolf's normal attacks even resemble Fox's, the character he is suppossed to be a "clone" of, unlike Falco who shares plenty of Fox's moves while having some moves changed. Did you actually play as Wolf in Brawl?
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Wed May 25, 2016 6:03 pm |
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yamnow
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but now his side b will be similar to sonic side b also his neutral air its similar to sonic
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MANKAY DEE LAUFFEEEEEE FOR SUPAH SMASH FLASH TWO (Monkey D. Luffy for Super Smash Flash 2) Fight me haters
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Kirb-Star
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So that would make Wolf a Sonic clone. Which means Ness is a DK clone because they share the same down aerial, and Meta Knight is a Kirby clone because they share the same Up and Down Throw, and Cloud is an Ike clone because they share an idle animation. Jokes aside, Wolf's Side B looks nothing to Sonic's Side B in the official Smash Games. Just because Sonic has a similar move is a small coincidence.
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Wed May 25, 2016 8:24 pm |
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yamnow
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the thing i try to say is wolf was made in 5 secons for that reason he shares a lot of attaks with others characters, in the other hand falco have more unique animation in sm4sh
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Wed May 25, 2016 9:58 pm |
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Sweet Jesus, people here really haven't played Brawl, have they?Wolf is as much of a clone of Fox as Captain Falcon is of Samus. Also, by this logic: That would effectively make Pit in Smash 4, and subsequently Dark Pit, a semiclone of Fox. Sounds stupid, right? Well, this is effectively what you are trying to argue here, because he has an aimable Up-B, a Side-B that moves him forward, a Neutral B projectile, and a Down B reflector.
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Kirby and Dedede are semi-clones since both have an Inhale Neutral B, an rise-and-fall Up B and a chargeable hammer.
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Thu May 26, 2016 1:10 pm |
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mario and captain falcon are clones because they punch???
also I speculate quote from cave story~
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Thu May 26, 2016 1:34 pm |
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dragonballhero
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I speculate:
Ice Climbers King Dedede Falco Ganonddorf Pit Lucas and/or Ninten Either Roy, Ike, Anna, or Lyn (I'll take at least 1-2 out of these choices) Mewtwo Lucario Diddy Kong Dixie Kong R.O.B. Snake Captain Olimar Andy (Wars) Lip Roll (Mega Man) Krystal Wolf Ray (Custom Robo) Shadow the Hedgehog and/or Amy Rose Kratos Aurion Jill and Drill Dozer Shantae Shovel Knight Waluigi and/or Princess Daisy Cloud Crono Knuckles Zero (Mega Man) 2-3 retro Nintendo characters
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Goku2500
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| | | | dragonballhero wrote: I speculate:
Ice Climbers YES! King Dedede We need more villains. Falco Seems to be a lock. Ganondorf He is missing from the fray! Pit I wonder if he will join in Beta. Lucas and/or Ninten Out of both, Lucas would be the legit pick. Ninten would be nice though. Either Roy, Ike, Anna, or Lyn (I'll take at least 1-2 out of these choices) Ike and Roy would be my two picks. Mewtwo After the huge amounts of fan requests he got, I hope the Devs locked him in the roster. Lucario Idk. Mewtwo would get the cut before him, BUT, Lucario could make it in with Mewtwo. Diddy Kong Why isn't he here yet? Dixie Kong This would be nice. R.O.B. Yes! Snake Shadow Moses Island is in the game, which is strongly hinting at his inclusion. Captain Olimar Distant Planet is in the game, which could hint at Olimar's inclusion. Andy (Wars) A nice representation of the GBA days of Nintendo would be awesome! Lip YES!! Roll (Mega Man) I would rather see Zero, but Roll would be a good rep too. Krystal We need more females. Wolf I would like to see him in the game, but if StarFox only gets 1 more rep, it would be Falco. However, both Falco and Wolf can make it into the game. Ray (Custom Robo) A robot fighter in SSF2 would be epic! Shadow the Hedgehog and/or Amy Rose Shadow would be awesome. Amy Rose could have potential, and we do need more females, but if one or two more Sonic reps get in, Knux and Shadow would make the cut. Kratos Aurion Assist Trophy. Jill and Drill Dozer This would be a fun character to play as! Shantae A highly requested character and I would hope she makes it into SSF2. Shovel Knight Save for DLC. Waluigi and/or Princess Daisy If SSF2 adds another Mario rep, either one of these two would have to compete with Bowser Jr. Cloud Yes! Crono Hopefully he makes it in! Knuckles Yes! Zero (Mega Man) YES!!! 2-3 retro Nintendo characters Which ones are you thinking of? Duck Hunt Dog? Mach Rider? | | | | |
I left my notes in bold.For SSF2 Beta, I am speculating... Pac-Man Pit Ice Climbers Snake Wolf
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Fri May 27, 2016 8:51 pm |
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dragonballhero
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| | | | Goku2500 wrote: | | | | dragonballhero wrote: I speculate:
Ice Climbers YES! King Dedede We need more villains. Falco Seems to be a lock. Ganondorf He is missing from the fray! Pit I wonder if he will join in Beta. Lucas and/or Ninten Out of both, Lucas would be the legit pick. Ninten would be nice though. Either Roy, Ike, Anna, or Lyn (I'll take at least 1-2 out of these choices) Ike and Roy would be my two picks. Mewtwo After the huge amounts of fan requests he got, I hope the Devs locked him in the roster. Lucario Idk. Mewtwo would get the cut before him, BUT, Lucario could make it in with Mewtwo. Diddy Kong Why isn't he here yet? Dixie Kong This would be nice. R.O.B. Yes! Snake Shadow Moses Island is in the game, which is strongly hinting at his inclusion. Captain Olimar Distant Planet is in the game, which could hint at Olimar's inclusion. Andy (Wars) A nice representation of the GBA days of Nintendo would be awesome! Lip YES!! Roll (Mega Man) I would rather see Zero, but Roll would be a good rep too. Krystal We need more females. Wolf I would like to see him in the game, but if StarFox only gets 1 more rep, it would be Falco. However, both Falco and Wolf can make it into the game. Ray (Custom Robo) A robot fighter in SSF2 would be epic! Shadow the Hedgehog and/or Amy Rose Shadow would be awesome. Amy Rose could have potential, and we do need more females, but if one or two more Sonic reps get in, Knux and Shadow would make the cut. Kratos Aurion Assist Trophy. Jill and Drill Dozer This would be a fun character to play as! Shantae A highly requested character and I would hope she makes it into SSF2. Shovel Knight Save for DLC. Waluigi and/or Princess Daisy If SSF2 adds another Mario rep, either one of these two would have to compete with Bowser Jr. Cloud Yes! Crono Hopefully he makes it in! Knuckles Yes! Zero (Mega Man) YES!!! 2-3 retro Nintendo characters Which ones are you thinking of? Duck Hunt Dog? Mach Rider? | | | | |
I left my notes in bold.For SSF2 Beta, I am speculating... Pac-Man Pit Ice Climbers Snake Wolf | | | | |
Thanks for the feedback! BTW, I...guess I don't really have any specific retro characters to choose from, though I definitely wouldn't mind Duck Hunt and/or Mach Rider. Also, I like your predictions! They all seem legit, except for one: I'm pretty sure Pac-Man is an AT in SSF2. If it wasn't for that, both he AND Bandana Waddle Dee would be on my speculation wishlist. Though, anything can change, so... Also, I should mention, I made a moveset for Roll from Mega Man. Here's the link to it: viewtopic.php?f=96&t=39656&p=1450156#p1450071Please tell me what you think!
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Goku2500
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| | | | dragonballhero wrote: | | | | Goku2500 wrote: | | | | dragonballhero wrote: I speculate:
Ice Climbers YES! King Dedede We need more villains. Falco Seems to be a lock. Ganondorf He is missing from the fray! Pit I wonder if he will join in Beta. Lucas and/or Ninten Out of both, Lucas would be the legit pick. Ninten would be nice though. Either Roy, Ike, Anna, or Lyn (I'll take at least 1-2 out of these choices) Ike and Roy would be my two picks. Mewtwo After the huge amounts of fan requests he got, I hope the Devs locked him in the roster. Lucario Idk. Mewtwo would get the cut before him, BUT, Lucario could make it in with Mewtwo. Diddy Kong Why isn't he here yet? Dixie Kong This would be nice. R.O.B. Yes! Snake Shadow Moses Island is in the game, which is strongly hinting at his inclusion. Captain Olimar Distant Planet is in the game, which could hint at Olimar's inclusion. Andy (Wars) A nice representation of the GBA days of Nintendo would be awesome! Lip YES!! Roll (Mega Man) I would rather see Zero, but Roll would be a good rep too. Krystal We need more females. Wolf I would like to see him in the game, but if StarFox only gets 1 more rep, it would be Falco. However, both Falco and Wolf can make it into the game. Ray (Custom Robo) A robot fighter in SSF2 would be epic! Shadow the Hedgehog and/or Amy Rose Shadow would be awesome. Amy Rose could have potential, and we do need more females, but if one or two more Sonic reps get in, Knux and Shadow would make the cut. Kratos Aurion Assist Trophy. Jill and Drill Dozer This would be a fun character to play as! Shantae A highly requested character and I would hope she makes it into SSF2. Shovel Knight Save for DLC. Waluigi and/or Princess Daisy If SSF2 adds another Mario rep, either one of these two would have to compete with Bowser Jr. Cloud Yes! Crono Hopefully he makes it in! Knuckles Yes! Zero (Mega Man) YES!!! 2-3 retro Nintendo characters Which ones are you thinking of? Duck Hunt Dog? Mach Rider? | | | | |
I left my notes in bold.For SSF2 Beta, I am speculating... Pac-Man Pit Ice Climbers Snake Wolf | | | | |
Thanks for the feedback! BTW, I...guess I don't really have any specific retro characters to choose from, though I definitely wouldn't mind Duck Hunt and/or Mach Rider. Also, I like your predictions! They all seem legit, except for one: I'm pretty sure Pac-Man is an AT in SSF2. If it wasn't for that, both he AND Bandana Waddle Dee would be on my speculation wishlist. Though, anything can change, so... The Devs "accidentally" leaked him back in APEX 2015 and this had the fans talking for months. Even though Pac-Man is an AT, they could turn it into Ms. Pac-Man.Also, I should mention, I made a moveset for Roll from Mega Man. Here's the link to it: viewtopic.php?f=96&t=39656&p=1450156#p1450071Please tell me what you think! | | | | |
The moveset is excellent! Great effort!
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dragonballhero
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| | | | Goku2500 wrote: | | | | dragonballhero wrote: | | | | Goku2500 wrote: | | | | dragonballhero wrote: I speculate:
Ice Climbers YES! King Dedede We need more villains. Falco Seems to be a lock. Ganondorf He is missing from the fray! Pit I wonder if he will join in Beta. Lucas and/or Ninten Out of both, Lucas would be the legit pick. Ninten would be nice though. Either Roy, Ike, Anna, or Lyn (I'll take at least 1-2 out of these choices) Ike and Roy would be my two picks. Mewtwo After the huge amounts of fan requests he got, I hope the Devs locked him in the roster. Lucario Idk. Mewtwo would get the cut before him, BUT, Lucario could make it in with Mewtwo. Diddy Kong Why isn't he here yet? Dixie Kong This would be nice. R.O.B. Yes! Snake Shadow Moses Island is in the game, which is strongly hinting at his inclusion. Captain Olimar Distant Planet is in the game, which could hint at Olimar's inclusion. Andy (Wars) A nice representation of the GBA days of Nintendo would be awesome! Lip YES!! Roll (Mega Man) I would rather see Zero, but Roll would be a good rep too. Krystal We need more females. Wolf I would like to see him in the game, but if StarFox only gets 1 more rep, it would be Falco. However, both Falco and Wolf can make it into the game. Ray (Custom Robo) A robot fighter in SSF2 would be epic! Shadow the Hedgehog and/or Amy Rose Shadow would be awesome. Amy Rose could have potential, and we do need more females, but if one or two more Sonic reps get in, Knux and Shadow would make the cut. Kratos Aurion Assist Trophy. Jill and Drill Dozer This would be a fun character to play as! Shantae A highly requested character and I would hope she makes it into SSF2. Shovel Knight Save for DLC. Waluigi and/or Princess Daisy If SSF2 adds another Mario rep, either one of these two would have to compete with Bowser Jr. Cloud Yes! Crono Hopefully he makes it in! Knuckles Yes! Zero (Mega Man) YES!!! 2-3 retro Nintendo characters Which ones are you thinking of? Duck Hunt Dog? Mach Rider? | | | | |
I left my notes in bold.For SSF2 Beta, I am speculating... Pac-Man Pit Ice Climbers Snake Wolf | | | | |
Thanks for the feedback! BTW, I...guess I don't really have any specific retro characters to choose from, though I definitely wouldn't mind Duck Hunt and/or Mach Rider. Also, I like your predictions! They all seem legit, except for one: I'm pretty sure Pac-Man is an AT in SSF2. If it wasn't for that, both he AND Bandana Waddle Dee would be on my speculation wishlist. Though, anything can change, so... The Devs "accidentally" leaked him back in APEX 2015 and this had the fans talking for months. Even though Pac-Man is an AT, they could turn it into Ms. Pac-Man.Also, I should mention, I made a moveset for Roll from Mega Man. Here's the link to it: viewtopic.php?f=96&t=39656&p=1450156#p1450071Please tell me what you think! | | | | |
The moveset is excellent! Great effort! | | | | |
Yeah, I know about the Pac-Man leak from APEX. I do hope that's real. Maybe Bandana Waddle Dee will also be possible. I mean do you SEE all of that potential for a playable character?! And considering Smash 4 made virtually NO reference to him in-game... Well....SSF2 is sort of my other hope. Speaking of, do you have any opinions on Pac and Bandana Dee? You can put them in bold like you did my other wishes. Aside from that, thanks for looking at my Roll moveset! BTW, two things: Do you think I should make ANY changes to Roll, and would you expect her and/or Zero as hidden characters in SSF2, or not?
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Sat May 28, 2016 9:41 pm |
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Goku2500
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| | | | dragonballhero wrote: | | | | Goku2500 wrote: | | | | dragonballhero wrote: | | | | Goku2500 wrote: | | | | dragonballhero wrote: I speculate:
Ice Climbers YES! King Dedede We need more villains. Falco Seems to be a lock. Ganondorf He is missing from the fray! Pit I wonder if he will join in Beta. Lucas and/or Ninten Out of both, Lucas would be the legit pick. Ninten would be nice though. Either Roy, Ike, Anna, or Lyn (I'll take at least 1-2 out of these choices) Ike and Roy would be my two picks. Mewtwo After the huge amounts of fan requests he got, I hope the Devs locked him in the roster. Lucario Idk. Mewtwo would get the cut before him, BUT, Lucario could make it in with Mewtwo. Diddy Kong Why isn't he here yet? Dixie Kong This would be nice. R.O.B. Yes! Snake Shadow Moses Island is in the game, which is strongly hinting at his inclusion. Captain Olimar Distant Planet is in the game, which could hint at Olimar's inclusion. Andy (Wars) A nice representation of the GBA days of Nintendo would be awesome! Lip YES!! Roll (Mega Man) I would rather see Zero, but Roll would be a good rep too. Krystal We need more females. Wolf I would like to see him in the game, but if StarFox only gets 1 more rep, it would be Falco. However, both Falco and Wolf can make it into the game. Ray (Custom Robo) A robot fighter in SSF2 would be epic! Shadow the Hedgehog and/or Amy Rose Shadow would be awesome. Amy Rose could have potential, and we do need more females, but if one or two more Sonic reps get in, Knux and Shadow would make the cut. Kratos Aurion Assist Trophy. Jill and Drill Dozer This would be a fun character to play as! Shantae A highly requested character and I would hope she makes it into SSF2. Shovel Knight Save for DLC. Waluigi and/or Princess Daisy If SSF2 adds another Mario rep, either one of these two would have to compete with Bowser Jr. Cloud Yes! Crono Hopefully he makes it in! Knuckles Yes! Zero (Mega Man) YES!!! 2-3 retro Nintendo characters Which ones are you thinking of? Duck Hunt Dog? Mach Rider? | | | | |
I left my notes in bold.For SSF2 Beta, I am speculating... Pac-Man Pit Ice Climbers Snake Wolf | | | | |
Thanks for the feedback! BTW, I...guess I don't really have any specific retro characters to choose from, though I definitely wouldn't mind Duck Hunt and/or Mach Rider. Also, I like your predictions! They all seem legit, except for one: I'm pretty sure Pac-Man is an AT in SSF2. If it wasn't for that, both he AND Bandana Waddle Dee would be on my speculation wishlist. Though, anything can change, so... The Devs "accidentally" leaked him back in APEX 2015 and this had the fans talking for months. Even though Pac-Man is an AT, they could turn it into Ms. Pac-Man.Also, I should mention, I made a moveset for Roll from Mega Man. Here's the link to it: viewtopic.php?f=96&t=39656&p=1450156#p1450071Please tell me what you think! | | | | |
The moveset is excellent! Great effort! | | | | |
Yeah, I know about the Pac-Man leak from APEX. I do hope that's real. Maybe Bandana Waddle Dee will also be possible. I mean do you SEE all of that potential for a playable character?! And considering Smash 4 made virtually NO reference to him in-game... Well....SSF2 is sort of my other hope. Speaking of, do you have any opinions on Pac and Bandana Dee? You can put them in bold like you did my other wishes. I definitely hope the Pac-Man leak is true and that video games' four biggest icons get to duke it out in SSF2 like SSB4. As for Bandana Dee, if he unexpectedly made the cut, he would instantly be my main in SSF2! The little dude has an infinite amount of moveset potential. One move is that he could use his spear to attack his opponents. Highly unlikely due to his role as an AT, but the Devs always say this is subject to change, so we will have to see...Aside from that, thanks for looking at my Roll moveset! BTW, two things: Do you think I should make ANY changes to Roll, and would you expect her and/or Zero as hidden characters in SSF2, or not? The moveset you made for Roll was awesome and it does not need to be changed, unless you want to. As for either Roll or Zero being hidden characters in SSF2, it would most likely go to Zero only because of two reasons; he was in SSF1 and he is heavily requested by the SSF2 Community. Roll may be a great Mega Man character and a great female rep, but she might have to sit this one out. However, you never know with SSF2... | | | | |
Bold are my notes.
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