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It's Weavile's choice. He can

1. Tell us who he's going to 'reveal'
2. Say nothing
3. Lie about who he's going to 'reveal'
4. Wait for the real revealing role to rock up

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Alright, I've gone and looked at the role-list again. Here it is for everyone's convenience. Based on what we know so far, I've made some annotations.

- 2 investigative roles   One of these was the Tracker, who is now dead. The other is probably Tid, a cop.
- 1 protective role   Nobody was the bodyguard.
- 1 revealing role (roles that include revealing a role (doesn't include role cop))   If what Weavile claims is true, then the revealing role is probably an oracle. If anyone else has a revealing role, it could possibly condemn him.
- 1 bulletproof
- 2 normal villagers (Includes roles that think they are villagers)   Believeblood was the Grave Digger, a role that appears as a townie to one's self. The other normal villager could be either a regular townie, a miller, another grave digger, or a gallis, by my reckoning.
- 1 shooter role (Vig, Paranoid Gun Owner or hunter (doesn't include bodyguard or mafia))
- 3 mafia (1 Godfather, 1 roleblocking role)
- 1 3rd-party role (Survivor or Amnesiac)
- 1 apparently important role (Lightkeeper or Beloved Princess) Darksonic was the Beloved Princess.

So, that leaves us with a cop, an oracle, a bulletproof, a normal villager, a shooter, three mafia and a third-party player.

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Mafia won't kill there own, so if Weavile doesn't die after outing Mafia, we can't trust him.
Unless of course he was fake-outing someone... But IMO the real Oracle would have claimed by now.

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Tid wrote:
Mafia won't kill there own, so if Weavile doesn't die after outing Mafia, we can't trust him.
Unless of course he was fake-outing someone... But IMO the real Oracle would have claimed by now.

Not necessarily. The real oracle (if it isn't Weavile) might have decided that the advantages of staying hidden were better than those of exposing the false claim.

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As I said before, they aren't necessarily an Oracle, and they may feel that they are in a position where they can do a lot more damage hidden for now. Especially since (as I keep saying, but no one seems to listen) the Mafia have a role blocker. If the real role revealer reveals themselves, they can be roleblocked and then killed with no expense except for the fact that they're not role blocking anyone else. I personally wouldn't want to be in that position.

Also, the amnesiac is awesome. I'm not sure how many of you realised, but he can do a huge amount, taking Blitz's old role. I hope we get one, because survivors don't seem to be able to help much at all.

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Day 4 is lasting a LONG time.

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Brikmaethor wrote:
Tid wrote:
Mafia won't kill there own, so if Weavile doesn't die after outing Mafia, we can't trust him.
Unless of course he was fake-outing someone... But IMO the real Oracle would have claimed by now.

Not necessarily. The real oracle (if it isn't Weavile) might have decided that the advantages of staying hidden were better than those of exposing the false claim.

There are no advantages of staying hidden.
BTW I have an Epicmafia accout named Kirzima.
We should lynch someone, but if we lynch the wrong person, we're in trouble. I agree that Genis does seem scummy, but I don't know if I'm willing to vote yet. And, yes, this day is taking waaaaaay too long.
I think if somehow Genis is cleared, we should move on to Dark Ermac. He hasn't done much.


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Dark Ermac could possibly be busy with college.

As for Genis, I'm worried that we could be dealing with another Believeblood/Darksonic with this one. I'm just not sure.

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Weavile wrote:
Brikmaethor wrote:
Tid wrote:
Mafia won't kill there own, so if Weavile doesn't die after outing Mafia, we can't trust him.
Unless of course he was fake-outing someone... But IMO the real Oracle would have claimed by now.

Not necessarily. The real oracle (if it isn't Weavile) might have decided that the advantages of staying hidden were better than those of exposing the false claim.

There are no advantages of staying hidden. There are even MORE advantages of staying hidden now. The Mafia's roleblocker will not necessarily last forever and thus the Mafia will probably try to make as many kills as require a roleblocker as early as possible. One of these would be the Oracle. (ie. they'll probably try to kill the bodyguard and oracle ASAP

We should lynch someone, but if we lynch the wrong person, we're in trouble. No... really?I agree that Genis does seem scummy, but I don't know if I'm willing to vote yet. And, yes, this day is taking waaaaaay too long. There's talk though :)
I think if somehow Genis is cleared, we should move on to Dark Ermac. He hasn't done much.

The point isn't 'who's done nothing'. The point is 'who's refrained from posting'. People like Dark Eramac are just about never here, but that's because of college etc. and that shouldn't be held against them.
Regarding Genis, after thinking over our situation, I feel I reached the point where I just suspected any who were bordering on complete illiteracy. The same goes with Genis Potter. He's given reasons that he feels are logical. Just because I don't understand them doesn't mean that he's pulling at straws in order to lynch someone for the Mafia. It doesn't mean they aren't in the Mafia however. In the words of the great Nobody:

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tl;dr: no conclusions


With that said however Unvote: Weavile

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I'm busy.

Blitz can take over my spot.

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See, I told you we can't really say anything about D.E.

Although it would be funny if we lynched him, just so Blitz dies ASAP again.

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...lol.

Hey, Ermac, are you mafia?


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Lol was there someone else who wanted to e a replacement, I think there was but forgot to add him. Anyway I'll replace to blitz later, not much time.

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Obviously

So guys, after the long period of nothing happening, I'll ask again.

What are we doing?

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I dunno, but obviously some of us are mafia, and we probably shouldn't risk a no-lynch. May as well random lynch a possible mafia? I trust all of you exept maybe Genis. Genis is... I don't know. I suggest lynching people we don't know to be innocent and aren't on much anyways. I mean, if they're not really helpful...

I suspect Brik a little bit too, to be honest. Dunno why. All I knows is 'at Weavile has had the chance to Oracle four people, so maybe lynching him could be a good idea? I still like the idea of lynching Genis, though. Bah. Of course, all four of Weavile's scans could be dead already.

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