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What I think happened
1. 135 is lying for whatever reason (unlikely)
2. 135 was roleblocked (much more likely)

I know for a fact that I targeted Brik last night, and he died. The possibility you're saying does make sense to you, but I know it to be s***. Please, just lynch FoD today, lynch me tomorrow if for whatever reason he flips town. He says he compared Crabby and DJ last night, which seems to me like a too-easy claim. Scarlet flips town at any investigations, he knows this and says he compared those two, with both of them being conveniently dead.

Also, if he targeted DJ last night, why is he not dead?

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TheOneWhoKnocks wrote:
What I think happened
1. 135 is lying for whatever reason (unlikely)
2. 135 was roleblocked (much more likely)

I know for a fact that I targeted Brik last night, and he died. The possibility you're saying does make sense to you, but I know it to be s#%$&. Please, just lynch FoD today, lynch me tomorrow if for whatever reason he flips town. He says he compared Crabby and DJ last night, which seems to me like a too-easy claim. Scarlet flips town at any investigations, he knows this and says he compared those two, with both of them being conveniently dead.

Also, if he targeted DJ last night, why is he not dead?

I will agree with you, there is a mafia role blocker. Dephius, remember? Last time I checked though, he's dead. Having two mafia role blockers on one mafia team is very unlikely.
Also Nue was the one who would always flip innocent should she be investigated, not scarlet.
I'll give you the fact that he's not dead and that's very suspicious, but I think it's due to his role as a band comparer.

Here are the possible solutions.
If FoD is scum then either TOWK(as a scum/third party) or 135 is lying(as a third party) This is because of Brik's death, so it's plausible that either one of you are lying and there are actually two scum or a lying third party. This is the only other possible solution I see, where 135 is just being a bastard(which is unlikely.)

If TOWK is lying then no one is else is lying and everything makes sense. You even had a free night in which you could have used an ability on crabby to make his alignment appear as the opposite side.(Nue and alakazam had these abilities.) This scenario leaves only one mafia and one third party.


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Nue wasn't shown as innocent.
Due to her ability of being undefined, any investigations on her would fail.

Crabby screwed me over with that.


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Wait, I could've sworn the investigation just failed...


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Also, if he targeted DJ last night, why is he not dead?

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TheOneWhoKnocks wrote:
No BB, what I'm saying is, no one else could have killed Brik last night but me. Your role can't kill, life pot giver can't kill, bus driver can't kill, ex-singer can't kill, etc.

Error. Vote: TOWK anyway, since I'm sure I'm not scum.
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How about this: we lynch FoD today, and when he flips scum we win. However,if he were to flip town, just lynch me the next day.

Pushing for my lynch? Scummy: after all, by following your "suggestion", we lose two town (me and one tonight), resulting in 4 remaining players: you, 2 town, and a third party. Much more favorable odds then you, 4 town, and a third party.

Players: Believeblood (pretty much comfirmed)
Terra (comfirmed)
Lucina (comfirmed)
135 (???)
TOWK (???)
Me (obviously I know I'm town)

From this list, it's obvious to me that we can't go wrong by lynching TOWK. I realize, though, that I'm suspected right now.

I don't really have anything to add. In my opinion, 135 could go either town or third party (I'm pretty sure he's not scum). His buss-driving doesn't give us obvious results except for last night's action, which points TOWK as scum (unless I misunderstood something?). If he is town, though, there's aparently no third party.


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Voting TheOneWhoKnocks: Believeblood, Terra, Fly or Die
Voting Fly or Die: TheOneWhoKnocks

Not Voting: 135, Lucina


Deadline: Nov 18th, 14:00 (this post's hour).

With 6 players, 4 votes are required to cast a lynch.
If deadline is reached with no consensus, no lynch will happen.

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Also, if he targeted DJ last night, why is he not dead?

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194, unrelated question, but did you change Nue's passive ability from causing investigations to fail to making her appear innocent, or was it always like that? >.>


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194, unrelated question, but did you change Nue's passive ability from causing investigations to fail to making her appear innocent, or was it always like that? >.>


And who said Nue Houjuu was in this game?
I can't confirm the existance (or non-existance) of this role in this game.

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Huh? Nah, I was just asking if the new list was different from the original list you posted. Cause I remember Crabby saying any investigation on him would fail.


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Huh? Nah, I was just asking if the new list was different from the original list you posted. Cause I remember Crabby saying any investigation on him would fail.

That was a lie, he said that to get you lynched. If he was investigated he would appear innocent. (I was mafia that game.)
Anyways I really don't know why Fly or die didn't die. I actually do fear that there may be a pony cult in the game. So I'm going to Unvote until I get an answer.


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Game needs more Terra and 135.


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I'm reiterating my main point against TOWK: the only possible way I could've survived yesterday is that 135's busdriving was true. I think I may have figured everything out.
From last night(anything that matters, from last post):
Last night's actions:
I gave the Pot to DJ, yes.
Crabby killed DJ(unblockable).
Brik protects DJ.
135 busses me and Brik.

In this case, DJ, Brik and Crabby will all die, and this is the only logical option. Had Brik actually been targeted by TOWK for a kill, as he has claimed I would've died, and the only logical explanation for the three deaths is that 135 isn't lying. TOWK, you did well, but 135's revelation reveals everything.

And I think FoD didn't die because DJ Wiz was conf. town and he wasn't.

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No Terra, I mean why didn't FoD die because he targeted DJ. Brik's role kills anyone who visits his target, so if FoD targeted DJ and Crabby, him visiting DJ should've had him killed (he's lying).

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