She's not a one trick pony any more, but now i can do less combos than before. She does WAY too much knock back. Her dsmash doesn't go into fair anymore. So now i'm stuck with dsmash to up smash. Dash attack is now one of her kill moves for some reason instead of being a start up move. And uair kills instead of being a combo starter or extender. (Why not make screw attack the killer like in Trash 4) OK....this is going to take some getting used to. LOL

I'll go study what she can do again later.


(EDIT) I don't even feel like trying to figure her out. I'll be back next patch.

Masky's complants are pretty fair tbh, the fact that so many people were just picking 1.0.2 samus and spamming fair into CS for kills at 40 made me dislike the character, though i feel she's more like her 9b self thanks to the 1.0.3 patch

I think there's a certain sweetspot between 9b and Beta that would fit really well for Samus

I can't dash attack to F-air at higher %s anymore, her aerial missiles are now above her animation (so if you're aiming, you might miss...), her UNCHARGED Neutral-B is now faster(mcleodgaming here saying: spam to your heart's content, kids!) and charged is slower, because #logic, they reduced the B-throw's knockback, reduced the D-throw's damage. And for some reason, they decide to transfer the damage from her F-smash's 1st hitbox to the second.
And so, I have only one question. I get the "Samus OP pls nerf" meme, but damn Mcleod, did you have to go this hard on her ?

30/04/20: Edit of end of the World: Back when I did this post I did not understand or accept the changes made. I was a bad Samus player back then. Oh who am I kidding, I'm still a bad Samus player.

We all have our regrets and this post is mine. Since I can't delete it, might as well move on with it.

She was buffed into smash 4 spamus...OH NOOO SMASH 4 IS BASED ON MORE KNOCKBACK AND LESA COMPO

really dumb thing to say especially since samus nerfs wern't hard enough to actually make her a bad character just make her less retardedly easy to play

In my books it's easier to play her. Her down air is verrry useful.

for the record samus is still easily a high tier idk what ur on about

Samus is still top 5

Saw Akabonba's thread on potential moveset reworks for Goku, which reminded me I had this gathering dust on my desktop. Inspired by Link's dramatic moveset change following his BOTW redesign in Smash Ultimate, I decided to try the same for the highly unlikely scenario that Metroid Fusion's sequel, Metroid Dread, ever got finished.



Just a bunch of ideas I had bouncing in my head to make the Smash Bros incarnation of Samus more true to her in-universe self, ranging from improbable (up smash and new model) to "why isn't this already in Smash" (Ice Beam and Speed Booster).

I originally made this as speculation for Smash itself, but aside from the obvious (there's no way Samus's model is ever getting changed lol) I think some of these could transfer over to SSF2 nicely.

box is failed

edit: box is fixed

looks like the box breaks if you have the swearing filter on, fixed

This is actually really good! I hope something like this comes into full fruition in a Smash-esque game one day.

Cool and all, but two beams seems kinda redundant to me, plus it gets rid of the Morph Ball Bomb which is a Metroid staple. Side spec is pretty nice though. Up spec is good too, but where would that place Screw Attack? Nair perhaps?

Up Special is still Screw Attack.up smash is the melee counter. personally I would make Down-B a beam swap between Power, Plasma, Ice, Wave, and Spazer/Diffusion.