Starting off this discussion, I want to inform you that the information I'm relaying is not completely biased, and many players and YouTubers agree with it.

I see the term overpowered used a lot in character discussion forums, duels and battles, but what does overpowered really mean? Well, depending on the source, you'll get tons of different answers, but among professional gaming, it's usually defined as "Overpowered- the used has a disproportionate advantage over the meta-game in which the skill required is lower than the event." Their pros basically outweigh their cons unreasonably much so compared to other users/characters.

Goku is able to spam ki blasts, what character has recovery from projectile spam? I can't think of any, it CAN'T be punished the way top players use it. It can be reflected, and its priority is low, so you can FTilt them.
His dair game has splash reaching the ground, tons of priority, it's speed and hit box are ridiculous compared to any other dairs.
Link's dair, sure it's more of a meteor mash, or a spike (I can't remember)It isnt. Its powerful as hell, but itdoesnt spike you at all. ONly in Smash 4., but regardless, it's punishable.
His teleport kicks. Black mages doesn't attack, why should Gokus? They're both teleporting, and I've NEVER seen Goku "kick transmission" in the anime or manga. Why does everything has to be the exact same as in the Anime? Mario can throw his fireballs without a Fire Flower.
Let Link play a flute of time that puts the field to sleep OR OR OR maybe he can throw a one hit dagger. Yeah, just because it's possible in another game or show doesn't mean it should be on SSF2. NEWS FLASH if you didn't know that. Thats what I mean.

Ichigo's getsuga pushing away, his invincibility in which he can't be touched with his up special and his flash step side special.Again, Powershield/Reflect his projectile. His Side B is like his only vialbe approach option.
It out prioritizes Fox even though he's holding a sword, Fox should be able to out speed him.Priority doesnt have anything to do with speed. Priority is weird in this demo to say the least, so complaining about that wont help at all. Inb4 Falco isn't as fast, so there's a suggestion.

Naruto. Just Naruto. I can't even come to term with what I've seen every Naruto player do with him. His grab does ridiculous damage and it doesn't in the anime, manga or Naruto Storm series. He isn't a grapple character, so why should he be able to do about 20% + with a grab?Blame the guys who play Naruto, not Naruto himself. And here is the point again that Naruto has to be a carbon copy of Anime/Manga/whatever.

ALL 3 characters possess unreasonable amount of recovery time compared to the amount of offensive and defensive power that they hold. One last thing: There is a thread called "Top 5 characters". Goku and Ichigo are not even considered there, and Naruto only once, based mainly on online experience.



First off, it's unreasonable that they're even here, if you want them to be here, you might as well allow other popular fan bases to have characters as well. Kirito, Heathcliff and Agil from Sword Art Online maybe?
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At least Kirito, Heathcliff and Agil wouldn't be "overpowered."
Their abilities and smashes can be speculated, but their actual basis can be easily determined.
Their move sets don't have to be broken unlike the Shonen characters.
Kirito
PROS
• Fast attacks
• Large swings and fast stabs
• Good dodge game
• Fast faller (speculative on if this is good or not)
CONS
• Easily knocked away
• Based off of a character that loves DPS, he ignores armour and therefore should be punished by taking a larger damage modifier like (1/5th more damage than other characters)
• Speed can be a downfall if not controlled

Heathcliff
PROS
• He can use his shield to stun
• Should be harder to shield break
• Slow faller
• Armoured (takes 1/5th damage less than other characters)
• Harder to knock off the map
CONS
• He should run slow and jump low because of his heavy armour
• Swings should be slow just like Links
• Low dps

Agil
PROS
• Large knockback
• Heavy damage per hit (Both comparable to DK)
• Swings have large span
• Reach is good
CONS
• The speed of the attacks are very slow
• He should be based upon charging attacks
• He's weighed down by his great axe, but not so much because of his large physical build.
• Bad recovery
• Large stature, easier target


Hopefully, this topic can help to benefit majority of the players.
I understand though, their fighting styles are unique, but it's just unfair. I hope you can understand. I'm out of words, and if I find anymore that can relay reason towards this community, I'll edit my res.

Stop watching s#%$& anime pls.

-facepalm-

You want overpowered? Go play Marth or Pikachu. Both can kill at 50% effortlessly.

Goku's not overpowered. His Ki-Blasts aren't powerful, but they are spamable. Guess what? Hold the block button after getting hit the first time and it's an auto-powershield. And that move literally has no priority, nor any form of recovery. Zelda's is a teleport, and BOTH ends WILL hit, and this is the main reason why I'm salty against Zeldas. Black Mage's just a "Where do I want to go." And his Dair only has tons of priority when it hits the ground. Solid A tier IMO.

Ichigo can be hit from ANY instances of flash steps. His SideB can also be hit, but you shouldn't really do that, so just block, and if he's in front of you just grab or Nair him. Priority is junk right now, making some moves has more priority than it should, but his priorities is NOT enpowering him.

Naruto's grab game is fine. If you're getting grabbed to the point where his throws can kill, you're doing something very punishable or you're just bad. Somewhere around A and B?

Lul at SAO. It's nowhere in the league of how popular Naruto, Dragonball, or Bleach (ewww) is. Plus, "NO MORE ANIME CHARACTERS."

They're not unfair. If you see them as unfair, then frankly you're a terrible player.

EDIT: Just watched the replay you attached to. If I was a meta knight main, I would have gotten cancer.

Shouldn't this go in another section?
And no, 3 anime characters are enough. I'd prefer to have 1st party characters.

On topic: I don't Goku is that strong. He's alright, though.
Off topic: Aren't you the people that do 3 vs. 1 matches?