X Tournament Series: The Meta Thread
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It's only as cancer as the people who only play on one high plat two low side plats stages and Smashville. But seriously. The reason why the stage list is like it is now is because of player feedback. While a lot of player feedback is indeed bias, some of it makes sense. And by some I mean none of it because I can't piece player feedback together for crap. Although these points I may consider reworking the stage list... and introduce some even more controversially banned stages. and I'm pretty sure that goes to Smash Island. The X Tournament Series has too many unorthodox aspects for it to be "the standard". totally f*** the grammar in this post ---- e~ In other news, Brawl Minus is a thing this season.
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SV is actually a good Samus stage. However, I have something of a personal vendetta against the stage due to its omnipresence in every single game since its introduction. Look at any given tournament and you'll see that 99% of matches are played on SV. Everyone puts that stage on a pedestal claiming it to be the most fair and balanced stage in Smash Bros., yet there are some characters who benefit heavily from it. But none of that matters because this misinformation is so widespread and so ingrained into peoples' minds that they are more than willing to march to slaughter against those who use this trend to their advantage. I want to open peoples' eyes a bit and make them realize that the other stages in smash actually do exist. Also, to make the game more interesting by not making the game appear as a s*** version of smuh-forsche, because right now most people see the game as a slightly faster version of that game, thus making it completely unappealing and pointless to them.
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As much as people cannot accept it, the most balanced stage in any smash game is, by design, Battlefield. Final Destination is clearly unbalanced (you could even make a case for FD counterpick in Melee, for instance). And as such, the closer your stage is to FD, the less balanced it is. Smashville is closer to FD than to BF, and, as such, it cannot be properly balanced. Similarly, Hazardless Pokemon Stadium is not a super-balanced stage either.
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| | | | 0xC2 wrote: As much as people cannot accept it, the most balanced stage in any smash game is, by design, Battlefield. Final Destination is clearly unbalanced (you could even make a case for FD counterpick in Melee, for instance). And as such, the closer your stage is to FD, the less balanced it is. Smashville is closer to FD than to BF, and, as such, it cannot be properly balanced. Similarly, Hazardless Pokemon Stadium is not a super-balanced stage either. | | | | |
Though characters who have disjointed range have more of an advantaged on BF in this game then in any of the main smash games from what I experienced. @Ermac It's just a loved stage, even professionals who play Smash 4, PM and Brawl agree that its a loved stage. I also love playing on other stages like SSZ, DL, CS, BF, YS, 3DS, PS3(going to be PC), DC and even FD. However, like I said above, when it comes to connection, stages like SV and ToS hardly lag. The only time I lag on those stages is when it comes to interference or my opponent has a potato for a computer. I would love to play on YS, DL, FD, PS3, DC without lag. Dream land hardly lags, which I consider good. When it comes to FD, their is only a rare case where the lag isn't effecting the match. The Same with PS3 and YS. Sometimes I don't want to play on BF due to lag or I will give myself to much of an advantage.
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Don't worry, guys. Now that Smashville has the possibility of spawning a rain effect, potato-computer players will never pick it; it'll be only ToS over and over every match. Truth, and most of those characters are in the top-10. I've always wonder why BF starter when it favors top-tiers and Dreamland is the one that's counter-pick. Would it not help weaker character if they had Dreamland to choose from at the start. That's one more start in a low-tier mains favor to potentially take the first match.
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With your first quote, I don't think that will happen. Because devs said that it will mostly rain in the morning (not saying it won't rain in the afternoon, but it will rarely rain at that time probs), plus the devs might have a "remove extra animation" button so that everybody can play on SV. Also, if not, then LagVille confirmed.
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i welcome our new lagville overlords tbh
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To those who wonder, yes, I abandoned Seiran. Seiran is the second worst tournament I have run to date (the other being Satori, and it actually ended sort of well), and probably the most stress inducing. There was so much player... "feedback"... to say the least that I must now revisit a lot of things regarding the Series. Big things:
- Stagelist is reverted to 2015 season, with Dracula's Castle removed. The new stagelist didn't go well, at all.
- Removed all streaming rules, because players are incompetent enough to save replays for anything. morons
That said, I am incentivizing replays: For every complete set saved by a player, they move up one entire seed in the next event, effective now. Small things:
- I am considering scrapping XSSv3 as method of seeding in favor of FCR. This isn't official yet, stay tuned.
It really bothers me that this event, the main event, is getting beat in terms of success by BRAWL f*** MINUS. This community is comprised of wannabe professionals who expect everything handed to them on a silver platter. I'm genuinely disappointed in the direction the masses have gone. If Youmu is as bad as Seiran was I'm done. I'm hanging up the towel.
See you all next month.
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You should make Cirno the 9th X tournament, because overused meme.
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Goddamnit random.org why didn't you do this. actually... brb switching
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Please provide feedback. This directly affects the next event: http://strawpoll.me/6807799
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I voted on 50 ping. I'm assuming this is not a representation of the p2p connection, but a speedtest-related thing (so general internet connectivity). Since, well, EC-WC is like, 60-70 ping? or something like that. I don't know, it's been a while since I've been on pj64k, which I use as a measuring stick for these things.
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Call to Action: Make the X Tournament Series the Premier SSF2 Series Once More! Remember back in about 2014 when I first made the X Tournament Series? It revolutionized the concept of an organized tournament series. And because of that, it had a successful 2015 season.
Since the end of Ringo, the Series has kinda fallen off the cliff. I don't know why. That's why I'm calling on the community. There are a few things that the X Tournament Series hasn't solved in yet another major community change.
What am I doing wrong?
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Please provide feedback. This directly affects the next event: http://strawpoll.me/7036232http://hastebin.com/obuliqifuh
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The tournament's reputation has declined after the fiasco of X2:I. There's no doubt to anyone here that that was perhaps the worst possible scenario that has ever happened at a SSF2 tournament to date. In general, it's no stretch to see that a TO who imposes severe restrictions or otherwise makes "unfair" rulings tends to act as a repelling agent for those who just want to compete without encountering any drama. Not to say that you are either of those things, of course, because otherwise X would've completely crashed and burned a la Hypest. However, that one nullification of an entire Bo5 set in Winners Top 8 elicited the above-mentioned notions of restrictiveness and unfairness so strongly that it created the resulting s***. Right now, the attendance has dropped because the players are a bit weary of X right now, especially because there are so many other options for tournaments available to most players that they may not feel like risking it if they believe it has a chance of happening again. However, as long as things run smoothly from here on out, things will return back to normalcy. It will take some time, but eventually players will realize that X is here to stay. You just have to bear with it and wait it out for now. Also, I'd recommend taking one ruleset and sticking with it. Nothing kills tournament interest amongst new players as much as rule confusion. Remember that 99% of new players do not bother reading the rules in the first place, so flipping everything on its head every month is a good way to further add to their confusion and your own frustration. After X III, I would recommend that you refrain from changing your rules any further for at least 4-5 tournaments, UNLESS there is something very important that needs to be patched to prevent players from exploiting them.
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