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on topic, imo pm ganondorf is the perfect mix of falcon clone and og zelda ganon, so theres my opinion on the subject

also that ganon mod you showed is more or less still a falcon clone with two new moves

To people saying that Wario Bike should the new side-b, please. Why replace wario's MOST ICONIC MOVE with something that mainly appears in cutscenes? If you want the bike, go play Crusade or sm4sh. Shoulder Bash doesn't need to be replaced. This ain't Sm4sh where Wario Land is completely ignored. SSF2 is it's own thing. Wario isn't even directly playable in Warioware. Besides, plumber outfit Wario is defined by the Shoulder Bash and hunting for loot, biker Wario is defined by the Bike and minigames. And I don't think the devs would be willing to resprite him again after the recent resprite

No, no, no, no. I don't want it to be removed. I want Shoulder Bash to be his Dash Attack. Everyone will be happy this way,

Speak for yourself.
Shoulder Bash is perfect as it is now.

I've got to put an almost on your perfect right there.
Shoulder Bash is a great damage dealer, but has a quite stupid amount of end lag, which can leave you open for a long time.
Not just that, a lot of moves are able to counter it. Here goes some examples:
's Blaster (which for some reason only Wario's a** can counter. That's some powerful a** right there.)
's Cape
's "Ground pound stars"
's Up-B windbox
I wanna keep going on this list, but I got bored after sheik...
In my opinion, SB needs to be buffed (or at least added certain property) to get in the levels of "perfect".
Not just that, I agree with Gregory Goku's idea of putting SB as a dash attack, it would make everyone happy. Wario Bike would offer greater horizontal recovery, a shield breaker, an easy K.O. on the bike's wheelie and also allow you to charge Wario Waft faster, increasing vertical recovery, instead of waiting for it to recharge if you've had to use it to recover.
A thrown bike will "bounce" atop the character it is thrown at and keep them down, often preventing them from making a recovery. If the helpless character keeps trying to recover and successfully recovers, it might rack up over 100% damage. I'm sorry to say that Wario Bike is closer to perfection than SB will ever be able to be. It's sad to say, but someone's gotta do it.

^I think that info on ending lag is kinda outdated since it comes from 0.9b

Uhh, I am basing myself of stuff I know, and since beta is not out, and I haven't watched any videos or sorts to not spoil the fun for myself, I am basing myself on 0.9b, which is what I have.

I meant perfect as of Beta.
From what I've seen in videos the moves has much less endlag.

'sides, a buff is better than putting the move elsewhere

also, why not put the bike as the dash attack? everyone will be happy this way

Then, how the heck would the bike work, huh ? It wouldn't look like a dash attack at all. Dash attacks are only meant for little distances. Shoulder Bash would work better as a dash attack than Wario bike. It's not like you're gonna ride a bike for a single meter irl, it wouldn't make any sense. Maybe as a Neutral B, but then we would get rid of chomp...

it wouldn't make sense for one to fart an explosive when attempting to kill someone...

nor is attempting to eat them...

nor is shaking them and throwing them away...

this is we're talking about, he ain't your average hero, heck, he's not even a hero at all. he would do stuff in an unconventional, and usually weird and gross, way. besides, plumber wario's most iconic move is the shoulder bash. putting it somewhere where it wouldn't be used as much wouldn't make sense. and it would be weird if the most iconic move is a dash attack.

's lemons are either n-spec or, in the case of sm4sh, jab + side tilt + n-air + f-smash.
's psynergy hand is used in s-spec + u-spec + jab + dash attack + u-air + grabs and throws.
has a lot of electric based move because he's an electric type.

would it make sense if pika's thunder is replaced with, let's say, light screen (a move pika can naturally learn), and move thunder to u-smash (strong attack hitting above) or d-smash (strong attack hitting around/both sides/nearby)?

would it make sense to remove isaac's s-spec, since he already has a lot of other psynergy moves, in favor of other psynergy?

would it make sense to remove MM's lemons since he uses a lot of other robot master weaponry anyway, to make room for the metal blade? or even replacing Jab, just jab, with the lemons, will that make everyone happy?

^Are you like learning Macbeth at school or something?

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"would it make sense if pika's thunder is replaced with, let's say, light screen (a move pika can naturally learn), and move thunder to u-smash (strong attack hitting above) or d-smash (strong attack hitting around/both sides/nearby)?

would it make sense to remove isaac's s-spec, since he already has a lot of other psynergy moves, in favor of other psynergy?

would it make sense to remove MM's lemons since he uses a lot of other robot master weaponry anyway, to make room for the metal blade? or even replacing Jab, just jab, with the lemons, will that make everyone happy?"

Actually, it would. Seriously, much sense.

Also, they've moved Lloyd's Sonic Thrust to Dash attack. Why couldn't Wario receive the same treatment? If Shoulder Bash is his most iconic move, it should be in his Standard Special. But it isn't! There are NO references to Biker Wario (the most frequent we see nowadays)... Do you want another example? MK's Dimensional Cape. Wow. It's one, if not the most iconic of MK's moves. And it's on his Down-B. And NO one complains about it. Or... Goku's Instant Transmission. It's one of his most iconic moves, and isn't even in the game!