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Uhm, Gold? There are 12 players, not 11. Why did you change the numbers? We currently stand at a ratio of 8 townies to 4 non-townies. Scenario A brings that down to 6/4. Thus, as you said, we would get only one more shot at lynching an anti-townie before our numbers become even. A mafia victory wouldn't be far off after that. In scenario C, the no-lynch, Day 2 leaves us with a ratio of 7/4 and night investigations to lead our lynching. Even if we make a mistake and lynch a townie on Day 2, Day 3 would still see us ahead of the anti-townies, at a ratio of 5/4. Thus, we still get two lynches no matter what, the difference being that we get two informed lynches, instead of just one. There is little doubt as to which is the better option.

As for your other points, I think that you may have misinterpreted what I said. I meant to point out that a Doctor's intervention on Night 1 was extremely unlikely, and that it should not be relied upon. What I meant by "nigh-complete control" was that if we don't lynch, then we are guaranteed scenario C. If we do lynch, it becomes a toss-up between A and B, with the less-favorable A being the more likely of the two. I see now that I should have made those points more clear, and I apologize for that.

I also completely agree with pressuring role-reveals. The thing that I don't agree with is randomly jumping on a lynching bandwagon, which is a very real possibility, seeing as how you managed to sway almost the entire town with ease. The town should exercise caution, not being overly hasty in our decision making nor too quick to accept the first argument that comes along.

Now, as for the number changing. Either you made a mistake, thinking that there were only 11 players, or you have some way of knowing that two people will die tonight. Which is it, I wonder?

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Panthera leo wrote:
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Just curious, why do you FoS me? Also, the only reason I voted for Silent was due to not posting anything. I will keep my vote until he responds.

I found it weird that wherever you went, Blood followed. That seemed like a slight scumteam right there.

I honestly can't tell what BB was doing. It's possible he was trying to put the blame on me so he wouldn't be lynched.

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Bussing alert.


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I should also tell you that whatever I did, BB Immediatly copied me.

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Brik is scum. Clever scum, but scum.
You really think you could get away with explaining how disadvantegous it would be to town to lynch, and then in the same post vote someone off? I agree that lynching is a risky thing, especially when we know nothing. However, there are eight of us, and only a maximum of four of them. We have a mislynch and then some.
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I'd also like to bring to attention BelieveBlood's behaviour. Without bringing up his own thoughts, he seems to be just leeching off everyone else's opinions, and is focusing more on remaining clear than he is on hunting for scum.
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Oh, Pachinco ninja'd me.

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Question: In the case of a fool win, will the entire game stop or just remove the fool and move on?


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Panthera leo wrote:
Explain why you are going back and forth though. I want to see your reasoning behind this.

Back and forth? Like voting no lynch and then unvoting it? Well if you go by that logic then can you assume that everyone who unvoted for no lynch a mafia?
I'm sorry to say this, but if I WERE a mafia I would not be THAT stupid to vote for the silent one directly after pachino(Really that would be not be very smart even for someone like me.). I voted for the silent one for reasons that were explained before.


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Ok, so far, it seems there is one (possible) scum teams that I see so far.

Pachino/Believeblood

Will post reasons later.

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Are you a Survivor, Shooter, or other third party of sorts? You seem far more concerned with keeping yourself alive than helping Town find scum.

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For newcomers, that's also common behavior when maff role is recieved (trying best to stay alive). Survivor/Shooter/Amnesiac seems possible too.


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Believeblood wrote:
Panthera leo wrote:
Explain why you are going back and forth though. I want to see your reasoning behind this.

Back and forth? Like voting no lynch and then unvoting it? Well if you go by that logic then can you assume that everyone who unvoted for no lynch a mafia?
I'm sorry to say this, but if I WERE a mafia I would not be THAT stupid to vote for the silent one directly after pachino(Really that would be not be very smart even for someone like me.). I voted for the silent one for reasons that were explained before.

But you still voted him right after I did.

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Tid wrote:
Are you a Survivor, Shooter, or other third party of sorts? You seem far more concerned with keeping yourself alive than helping Town find scum.

I'm asking BelieveBlood, in case I was unclear. (can't edit posts lol)
@Pachinco's comment: And it was for similar/basically the same reasons that he voted for him.

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Whoops, didn't see BB's post. Sorry about that.
@Tid, my name only has one c in it.

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Oh my bad. I was thinking of the Japanese arcade game thing.

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Tid wrote:
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Are you a Survivor, Shooter, or other third party of sorts? You seem far more concerned with keeping yourself alive than helping Town find scum.

I'm asking BelieveBlood, in case I was unclear. (can't edit posts lol)
@Pachinco's comment: And it was for similar/basically the same reasons that he voted for him.

I can tell you I'm not a third party role. I don't know how to deduce post or some stuff like some of the people here. This is due to my over thinking like gold and his suspicions. Maybe he is a mafia or maybe brikmeathor want us to think that so we can take a hit. Another example is all the people unvoting no lynch. Do they want to look innocent or do they genuinely regret voting for no lynch. Is pathera Leo trying to make me and pachino look like mafia by announcing it to the world or is he a townie it's seems logical from his point a view. These kind of moments confuse me and I can't make a decision so I tend to go with what other people are thinking. Also when I'm accused of anything I tend to panic I mean I don't want to get kicked out it's the first day so I go out of my way to try to convince people I'm not a mafia. I mean helping myself is like helping the town the more of us the better if you look at it from a stand point.


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