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Dwain wrote:
I believe Luffy will be in for the following reasons:
1 he will have a good move set due to his powers
2 he is a very popular anime character
3 we need him to finish the Shonen 4 (I think thats how you say it)
4 he has great potential and would be a great popularity boost
5 Im surprised nintendo hasnt added him due to him being in several titles on the 3ds lately Gee I wonder why? Cuz y'know it's a Nintendo game and Anime characters aren't 3rd party.

reasons why he shouldnt
1 he would be another overpowered character and honestly their should be tiers Goku.
2 other characters either need beefed up or the over powered characters need toned down Goku
3 his range would be way too good and further overpowering himself It's as if you never seen how they balance him in the games...

Ultimantly im a middle guy I want him in yes but he would be another overpowered guy and the already over powered guys need toned down

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Dwain wrote:
I believe Luffy will be in for the following reasons:
1 he will have a good move set due to his powers
2 he is a very popular anime character
3 we need him to finish the Shonen 4 (I think thats how you say it)
4 he has great potential and would be a great popularity boost
5 Im surprised nintendo hasnt added him due to him being in several titles on the 3ds lately

reasons why he shouldnt
1 he would be another overpowered character and honestly their should be tiers
2 other characters either need beefed up or the over powered characters need toned down
3 his range would be way too good and further overpowering himself

Ultimantly im a middle guy I want him in yes but he would be another overpowered guy and the already over powered guys need toned down


Luffy: show
I came up with a moveset and added sweetspots to certain attack to keep his overall stranght but also make him balanced.

Luffy's Moveset

Game:Jump Superstars

Note: Due to Luffys stretching abilities, some attacks have " Sweetspots" that give added effects to the attack(s). This works similar to the tip of Marth's sword. Hits with the knuckles, palm or foot(heel, bottom, and toes for "Gum Gum Spear") cause increase damage and knockback, and in some cases meteor smashes

Smash Attacks

Basic Combo
-Jab
Range- low
Damage- 3%
Knockback- none
Speed- Medium

-2nd Jab
Range- low
Damage- 3%
Knockback- none
Speed- medium

-Gum Gum Gatling
Range- medium
Damage- 5% per hit
Sweet Spot- 7% per hit
Knockback- low
Speed- high

Side Smash
-Gum Gum Pistol
Range- medium to high
Damage- 10%-17%
Sweet Spot- 14%-22%
Knockback- medium to high
Speed- medium
Chargeable- Increasing range, damage, and Knockback

Down Smash
-Gum Gum Whip
Range- low-medium
Damage- 5%-15%
Sweet Spot- 8%-18%
Knockback- low
Speed- medium
Chargeable- Increasing damage, range and Knockback
Note: Hitting in front and then behind; if Sweet Spotted, launches opponents in the direction hit in with higher knockback

Up Smash
-Gum Gum Volcano
Range- medium
Damage- 11%
Sweet Spot- 15%
Knockback- medium
Speed- low
Note: has some end lag

Up Tilt
-Gum Gum Bell
Range- Low
Damage- 1st-8% 2nd-10%
Sweet Spot- 1st-10% 2nd 12%
Knockback- medium
Speed- high
Note: Hitting above and behind then swinging back to hit above and forward. If Sweet Spotting with the back of Luffy's head has low knockback, Sweet Spotting with Luffy's forehead(during the second hit) hooks the opponent(s) throwing them forward

Side Tilt
-Gum Gum Shotgun
Range- Medium
Damage- 8% per hit
Sweet Spot- 11% per hit
Knockback- medium
Speed- medium

Down Tilt
-Gum Gum Stamp
Range- low
Damage- 9%
Sweet Spot- 13%
Knockback- low
Speed- medium
Note: Buries opponents, meteor smashes opponents in air

Dash Attack
-Gum Gum Sickle
Range- High
Damage- 7%
Sweet Spot- 10%
Knockback- low-medium
Speed- high
Note: Sweet Spotting with Luffy's fist also increases knockback, has some end lag

Specials

Neutral Special
-2nd Gear
Note: increases speed and all attacks do 5% more damage. has a limit similar to final forms
- Has a 10sec charge before being active, can tap directional buttons to roll out but cancels charge

Side Special
-Gum Gum Bazooka
Range- medium
Damage- 14%
Sweet Spot- 18%
Knockback- high
Speed- medium

Down Special
-Gum Gum Balloon
Note: Reflects projectiles and slightly decreases melee damage, has a 3 second llimit, has some end lag

Up Special
-Gum Gum Storm
Range- high
Damage- 10%-23% if all attacks hit
Sweet Spot- 15%-28% if all attacks hit
Knockback- Medium
Speed- medium (launch)-high(attack)
Note: Luffy falls helplessly after attack, Luffy can grab ledges, has start lag

Air Attacks

Neutral Air
-Gum Gum Fireworks
Range- medium
Damage- 8% per hit
Sweet Spot- 12% per hit
Knockback- low
Speed- medium
Note: Luffy remains still while using this move, has small end lag

Forward Air
-Gum Gum Battle Axe
Range- low-medium
Damage- 14%-16%
Sweet Spot- 18%-20%
Knockback- high
Speed- medium
Note: Meteor smashes if hit by the heel or bottom of Luffy's foot. Does 2% more damage if hits the stage

Back Air
-Gum Gum Whip
Range- medium
Damage- 6%
Sweet Spot- 12%
Knockback- low-medium
Speed- high

Down Air
-Gum Gum Spear
Range- Medium
Damage- 8%
Sweet Spot- 14%
Knockback- medium
Speed- low
Note: meteor smashes if hit directly with Luffy's toes

Up Air
-Gum Gum Rocket
Range- -high
Damage- 14%
Sweet Spot- 17%
Knockback- medium
Speed- low-high
Note: aimable, Direct Contact with Luffy's forehead causes higher knockback, Luffy grabs an opponent or the stage to shoot himself in the desired direction if he fails to grab anything he suffers from end lag, grabbing an opponent guarantees a "Sweet Spot" hit, has small start lag starts slow before grabbed.

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I speculate that all overpowered characters (ichigo goku and naruto) will get less of a op advantage compared to the other characters
I predict that Luffy Ridley Luigi Bowswer Mewtwo Lucario Greninja Ganondorf and Impa will be playable characters. I predict that half of the characters already in will have to be unlocked in the finished game and as a demo is just giving us a taste of what the game will be.
I also predict there will be loads more maps to choose from and some unique characters
I would love to see a custom character screen being only available on single player however.
my last prediction is all not already OP characters get beefed up


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I had a dream where Squidward and another character was confirmed for SSF2, for version 0.8.
Do you guys have dreams about the game?

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BluePikmin11R wrote:
I had a dream where Squidward and another character was confirmed for SSF2, for version 0.8.
Do you guys have dreams about the game?

I once dreamt a Dojo update about Dedede and the Powerpuff Girls.

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Well despite that I'd love Little Mac to be in, I didn't realize how beautiful of a character he had the potential to be in a Smash Bros game, and wouldn't have thought to suggest him before SSB4, and considering that I'm pretty sure the roster for SSF2 was finalized quite awhile before SSB4, it only makes me really doubtful he'd be in here.

But Mmmm, is the prospect tasty.

Realistically however I expect to see some surprising characters in however, not sure who though, and from what show game or media.

Bo Bo Bo would be cool, but that's pretty much just my bias as his Anime was my favorite as a kid.

If I were to imagine a moveset I would say a lot of it is as easy as looking at Jump Ultimate Stars.


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Kirb-Star wrote:
Developers really know what they're doing.
About veterans, I speculate:
-King Dedede
-Bowser
-Luigi
-Mewtwo with Lucario's weight
And about newcomers:
-Dark Matter (unlikely, but I think he could work, specially his swordsman form) or
-Adeleine (She has a lot of moveset potential: mixing up the variants of the Paint ability troughout the Kirby games + her ability to turn drawings into real beings. still think unlikely)
-Luffy (even if I'm not much of a fan of One Piece, he could be fun to play at)
-Knuckles (if they don't use his Sonic Boom design)
-Dr. Eggman (fighting in the Eggmobile plus the help of Badniks could be pretty unique) or
-Shadow (because everyone loves him)

Kinda like a Bowser Jr. clone? Also We Need mr.game and watch...


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bobhail9 wrote:
Kirb-Star wrote:
Developers really know what they're doing.
About veterans, I speculate:
-King Dedede
-Bowser
-Luigi
-Mewtwo with Lucario's weight
And about newcomers:
-Dark Matter (unlikely, but I think he could work, specially his swordsman form) or
-Adeleine (She has a lot of moveset potential: mixing up the variants of the Paint ability troughout the Kirby games + her ability to turn drawings into real beings. still think unlikely)
-Luffy (even if I'm not much of a fan of One Piece, he could be fun to play at)
-Knuckles (if they don't use his Sonic Boom design)
-Dr. Eggman (fighting in the Eggmobile plus the help of Badniks could be pretty unique) or
-Shadow (because everyone loves him)

Kinda like a Bowser Jr. clone? Also We Need mr.game and watch...

As G&W has always been unlockable, we might see him in the full version. Every character from the current demos are gonna ba starters.

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I may aswell give it a shot...

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Riku (Kingdom Hearts universe) - Sora needs a sparring partner. Why not his old friend Riku?
Luffy (One Piece universe) - It's gonna happen one way or another. Betting on it.
Pit (Kid Icarus universe) - I just got a good feeling.
Cloud (Final Fantasy universe) - Same reason as Riku. Black Mage needs someone.
Shadow (Sonic universe) - So coooooooool. NO! I don't want that.
Chorus Men/Marshal (Rhythm Heaven universe) - Before Gematsu I liked the Rhythm Heaven series and always wanted them to get some representation.

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TheRealHeroOfWinds wrote:
Riku (Kingdom Hearts universe) - Sora needs a sparring partner. Why not his old friend Riku?
Luffy (One Piece universe) - It's gonna happen one way or another. Betting on it.
Pit (Kid Icarus universe) - I just got a good feeling.
Cloud (Final Fantasy universe) - Same reason as Riku. Black Mage needs someone.
Shadow (Sonic universe) - So coooooooool. NO! I don't want that.
Chorus Men/Marshal (Rhythm Heaven universe) - Before Gematsu I liked the Rhythm Heaven series and always wanted them to get some representation.


I'm pretty sure nearly everyone you mentioned (except Chorus Men, based on sureness, and Luffy, for reasons not what you'd think), might still have a chance as each one had been worked on (in sprites, not in game as far as I could ever know) though this might have changed with the roster finalization. I would count 3/5 of those characters (I'll let you choose the more likely ones) making it in, but that might not be the case.

Also, animated avis. Though suggestive looking, I didn't know that was a thing.

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I had another dream where Luffy and a girl with a tomato head was in Smash Flash 2. :P

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BluePikmin11R wrote:
I had another dream where Luffy and a girl with a tomato head was in Smash Flash 2. :P

Okay, Luffy is reasonable, but What The f*** is this!?

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