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Can someone give me an example of a Street Fighter game that was on a Nintendo system? Not that I'm doubtful, but I can't seem to think of one.

Street Fighter 4 was on 3DS, and the series itself traces back to Super Nintendo.


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In my opinion, I think a lot of retro and/or uncommonly known characters are going to get in, compared to SSB4's seemingly All-star cast. After all, the list was finalized in 2012. At the time, we didn't even know if they were even going to make the fourth. The list was probably based on the devs' wish lists of who they wanted in smash.

So yeah, I'm guessing the following have either been thought of already and are being implemented in the game as we speak, or have already been rejected. They're mostly main characters of each series, but yeah.

Ryu (Street Fighter Series)
(+(An actual fighter in his series.)
(+(A unique move set, in a sense.)
(-(Just a wee bit too similar to Capt. Falcon IMO)

Scorpion (Mortal Kombat Series)
(+(Like above, an actual fighter.)
(+(Once again, a unique and brutal move set.)
(-(Maybe not enough moves for a complete move set, requiring ad libs.)
(-(Too hardcore for a game like Smash, maybe?)


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I also speculate Ryu from Street Fighter. I realize that Ryu being a bit similar to Captain Falcon is your own opinion, but can you explain that a bit? Because I do not see any similarity whatsoever. And yeah, Scorpion would be way too graphic for Super Smash Flash 2. Can't have him running around cutting people's head off and bathing their lifeless bodies in the fires of the Netherrealm, can we?


Well, with the captain's entire move set consisting of actual fighting moves (that he never gets to do in his games since he comes from a racing game, after all), I just automatically think that Ryu's moves would remind me a lot of Cpt. Falcon. I think it's just me though.

And now that I think about it, no other FF1 character will be in the roster because each series so far (excluding Mario reps including Wario) are generally in the same style as each other. i.e. ZS Samus is in style when compared to Normal Samus, and Link is in style when compared to Zelda. So if anyone's going to be from FF1, they're going have to conform to B. Mage's sprite style. Meaning vastly physical characters (like the monk and thief) are going to have to find some way to be flexible in such a small sprite.

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Yeah, Jam & fury...

Ah yes, that game by Wily World Cleod partook in creating...I do recall something about "having no MG representatives ingame (Blade/Blue cut, so yeah)", but since those three aren't exactly 100% MG...I see a very tiny chance of them being trophies or something like that, though not characters.

Speculating each "minor" series currently appearing in game to have at least two representatives (apart from anime characters and those like Chibi Robo and Bomberman that really only have one, recognizable protagonist), e.g:

Tales of Symphonia: Lloyd (Starter), Kratos/someone else (Unlockable)
Megaman: Megaman (Starter), Bass/Zero (Unlockable)
Fire Emblem: Marth (Starter), Roy/Ike/the two SSB4 new people (Unlockable)
Donkey Kong: Donkey Kong (Starter), Diddy Kong (Unlockable)
Wario: Wario (Starter), Waluigi (Unlockable)
Kingdom Hearts: Sora (Starter), Roxas/Riku (Unlockable)
Final Fantasy: Black Mage (Starter), somanyoptionstochoosefrom (Unlockable)
Golden Sun: Issac (Starter), ??? (Unlockable)


=Tales of Symphonia=

I don't think he'll get anymore reps, but if he does, I don't feel like Kratos would be chosen. Not because of popularity but because of movesets. Granted, I doubt the devs would make him a direct clone of Lloyd, but IMO, I feel like other characters from ToS would bring a better unique moveset pool than Kratos.

Kratos plays nothing like Lloyd aside from them both having Demon Fang other then that they barely have ANY sort of resemblance there would be absolutely nothing to do with movesets. Any someone else from Symphonia good luck with that considering none of them really fit into the Smash atmosphere when it comes to attacks besides Zelos and Kratos .Honestly I would hope if we got another Tales of Rep it isn't someone from a boring game like Symphonia and someone from Legendia or Innocence.

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SuperSegaSonicSS wrote:
☻Danny☻ wrote:
^Muah?
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Yeah, Jam & fury...

Ah yes, that game by Wily World Cleod partook in creating...I do recall something about "having no MG representatives ingame (Blade/Blue cut, so yeah)", but since those three aren't exactly 100% MG...I see a very tiny chance of them being trophies or something like that, though not characters.

Speculating each "minor" series currently appearing in game to have at least two representatives (apart from anime characters and those like Chibi Robo and Bomberman that really only have one, recognizable protagonist), e.g:

Tales of Symphonia: Lloyd (Starter), Kratos/someone else (Unlockable)
Megaman: Megaman (Starter), Bass/Zero (Unlockable)
Fire Emblem: Marth (Starter), Roy/Ike/the two SSB4 new people (Unlockable)
Donkey Kong: Donkey Kong (Starter), Diddy Kong (Unlockable)
Wario: Wario (Starter), Waluigi (Unlockable)
Kingdom Hearts: Sora (Starter), Roxas/Riku (Unlockable)
Final Fantasy: Black Mage (Starter), somanyoptionstochoosefrom (Unlockable)
Golden Sun: Issac (Starter), ??? (Unlockable)


=Tales of Symphonia=

I don't think he'll get anymore reps, but if he does, I don't feel like Kratos would be chosen. Not because of popularity but because of movesets. Granted, I doubt the devs would make him a direct clone of Lloyd, but IMO, I feel like other characters from ToS would bring a better unique moveset pool than Kratos.

Kratos plays nothing like Lloyd aside from them both having Demon Fang other then that they barely have ANY sort of resemblance there would be absolutely nothing to do with movesets. Any someone else from Symphonia good luck with that considering none of them really fit into the Smash atmosphere when it comes to attacks besides Zelos and Kratos .Honestly I would hope if we got another Tales of Rep it isn't someone from a boring game like Symphonia and someone from Legendia or Innocence.


Well, I pretty much knew I could be wrong with what I said, what I said was what I saw from LPs (Since I have no experience with the Tales series). Like I mentioned, I doubt Kratos would be a clone of Lloyd, I just feel like he wouldn't be "no ordinary swordsman" compared to Lloyd. Again, IMO.

Also, what do you think the ToS characters lack that makes them not "fit into the Smash atmosphere" compared to the other Tales Of characters? Again, I have little knowledge of Tales so I'm just asking.

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Kirb-Star wrote:
SuperSegaSonicSS wrote:
Can someone give me an example of a Street Fighter game that was on a Nintendo system? Not that I'm doubtful, but I can't seem to think of one.

Street Fighter II for SNES. Street Fighter Alpha for GBA. Street Fighter IV for 3DS and the list goes on.


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SuperSegaSonicSS wrote:
Can someone give me an example of a Street Fighter game that was on a Nintendo system? Not that I'm doubtful, but I can't seem to think of one.

Street Fighter 4 was on 3DS, and the series itself traces back to Super Nintendo.


Hmm Ok, never knew. I never thought SF ever appeared on Nintendo before.

Edit: dang I double posted. Sorry, I'll try to pay more attention.

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The devs already stated there would be no pure clones in SSF2.

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BluePikmin11R wrote:
The devs already stated there would be no pure clones in SSF2.


No "pure" clones? So, like Capt. Falcon and Ganon? Or like 2 characters with different side specials?

And my bet would be Simon Belmont for next reveal. Or at least, someone from Castlevania. The only problem with my idea is that any Belmont added to the game would probably be using a whip. That means that they'll be like ZS Samus, plus the sub-weapons from their respective game in the series.

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BareBones wrote:
BluePikmin11R wrote:
The devs already stated there would be no pure clones in SSF2.


No "pure" clones? So, like Capt. Falcon and Ganon? Or like 2 characters with different side specials?

And my bet would be Simon Belmont for next reveal. Or at least, someone from Castlevania. The only problem with my idea is that any Belmont added to the game would probably be using a whip. That means that they'll be like ZS Samus, plus the sub-weapons from their respective game in the series.


Hey, if Sakurai can put Marth and Lucina together in the same game, then I think MC Devs can put Simon and Zammy together in the same game. Besides, I doubt just because Simon's specialty is using a whip, doesn't mean he'll fight like Zammy. Would Simon really fight like Zammy?

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SuperSegaSonicSS wrote:
BareBones wrote:
BluePikmin11R wrote:
The devs already stated there would be no pure clones in SSF2.


No "pure" clones? So, like Capt. Falcon and Ganon? Or like 2 characters with different side specials?

And my bet would be Simon Belmont for next reveal. Or at least, someone from Castlevania. The only problem with my idea is that any Belmont added to the game would probably be using a whip. That means that they'll be like ZS Samus, plus the sub-weapons from their respective game in the series.


Hey, if Sakurai can put Marth and Lucina together in the same game, then I think MC Devs can put Simon and Zammy together in the same game. Besides, I doubt just because Simon's specialty is using a whip, doesn't mean he'll fight like Zammy. Would Simon really fight like Zammy?


Point taken. Then, there's the specials. Will each special just be a sub-weapon, or will/would he get the Mega Man treatment? I can think of some of the other stuff.

Dodging would be Skeleton Blaze(Aka back dash), running attack would either be the tackle from Circle of the Moon or the running slide like Mega Man, and the rest could be either in game abilities or random fighting stuff from the other fighting games he's been in.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=19wXEx-Kjqo
Ohhhhh.. So that's the G&W leak people were talking about.
Either way G&W I still feel confident he's back with or without the leak.
Did anyone manage to catch the original image in high quality?

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=19wXEx-Kjqo
Ohhhhh.. So that's the G&W leak people were talking about.
Either way G&W I still feel confident he's back with or without the leak.
Did anyone manage to catch the original image in high quality?

I bet it's a fake Muah made. Honestly, it seems like a stunt to get people to support characters he want, like his "Jeff the Killer leak"
I do want him in, though


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Well, I don't ever see the SSF2 slot outlines ever with their sprites seperate, that's seems extremely difficult to pull, I'm sure there is credibility behind it.

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Well, I don't ever see the SSF2 slot outlines ever with their sprites seperate, that's seems extremely difficult to pull, I'm sure there is credibility behind it.

It's fairly easy to fake something like this, I speak from experience.


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