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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11844387

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North Korea has warned that the impending joint military exercises by the South and the US are pushing the region to "the brink of war".


Maybe I am too ignorant of the etiquette of Korean culture, but I'd say the provocations are more boreal.

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So.. Lemme try and get this straight. North-Korea is saying that MILITARY EXERCISES are pushing the two countries to the brink of war? Not, you know, the sinking of the South-Korean battleship by North-Korea?

Or, you know, the shells being fired over the border that killed four people recently? And shoot far enough to apparently hit the South-Korean capital?

Why hasn't America invaded these guys yet? They've done it for less..

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North Korea's maverick 'diplomacy' is rather baffling, it's as if they are asking to be invaded. I am really curious how China is going to respond to these developments, China is increasingly more relient on foreign trade and thus cannot support Pyongyang as strongly as it did in the past.

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Hakker wrote:
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Hang on, I need a moment...

So.. Lemme try and get this straight. North-Korea is saying that MILITARY EXERCISES are pushing the two countries to the brink of war? Not, you know, the sinking of the South-Korean battleship by North-Korea?

Or, you know, the shells being fired over the border that killed four people recently? And shoot far enough to apparently hit the South-Korean capital?

Why hasn't America invaded these guys yet? They've done it for less..

Attacking Iraq had nothing to do with fighting, it had to do with oil and money.

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An invasion of North Korea would require the immediate capture of Pyongyang. Not that easy considering the SAM batteries which would no doubt alert the NKA who would be able to reduce Seoul into rubble before the paratroopers would have landed.

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|~DVDV~| wrote:
Attacking Iraq had nothing to do with fighting, it had to do with oil and money.

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Clearly if we wanted anything from Iraq, we would've taken it by now, correct? After all, we overthrew their government and could have essentially done whatever we wanted. So, where's all the oil?
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Hang on, I need a moment...

So.. Lemme try and get this straight. North-Korea is saying that MILITARY EXERCISES are pushing the two countries to the brink of war? Not, you know, the sinking of the South-Korean battleship by North-Korea?

Or, you know, the shells being fired over the border that killed four people recently? And shoot far enough to apparently hit the South-Korean capital?

Why hasn't America invaded these guys yet? They've done it for less..

America's relationship with China is pretty much a balancing act right now, attacking North Korea could cause a major domino effect.

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|~DVDV~| wrote:
Attacking Iraq had nothing to do with fighting, it had to do with oil and money.

I was talking about Vietnam, ya numbskull.

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Hakker wrote:
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Attacking Iraq had nothing to do with fighting, it had to do with oil and money.

I was talking about Vietnam, ya numbskull.

Oh well, let's throw Iraq into the discussion too then.

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Jesus Loves You! wrote:
Hakker wrote:
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Hang on, I need a moment...

So.. Lemme try and get this straight. North-Korea is saying that MILITARY EXERCISES are pushing the two countries to the brink of war? Not, you know, the sinking of the South-Korean battleship by North-Korea?

Or, you know, the shells being fired over the border that killed four people recently? And shoot far enough to apparently hit the South-Korean capital?

Why hasn't America invaded these guys yet? They've done it for less..

America's relationship with China is pretty much a balancing act right now, attacking North Korea could cause a major domino effect.

That and I doubt anyone in the government would want to start another war when we're already stretched pretty thin in Afghanistan, and we pretty much need all the manpower we have for that, because the terrorists are pretty much an endless suicide machine.

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Jesus Loves You! wrote:
|~DVDV~| wrote:
Attacking Iraq had nothing to do with fighting, it had to do with oil and money.

Ignorant children
Clearly if we wanted anything from Iraq, we would've taken it by now, correct? After all, we overthrew their government and could have essentially done whatever we wanted. So, where's all the oil?


Assertion: Claiming that Iraq was attacked for oil amongst other things cannot be disproven by pointing out that the US have not stolen significant amounts of oil. Query: What would make you think it would? Clarification: Iraq was attacked for a variety of reasons, one of which was having neo-conservative ideologues in government (Apostrophe: Something very nasty indeed.) who genuinely feared the presence of WMDs (Elaboration: Admittedly there were WMDs in Iraq, but they have been dated prior to the Gulf War.), perhaps a way to take out a threat to Kuwait and possibly but not demonstrably a tactic to weaken the OPEC.

Jesus Loves You! wrote:
Hakker wrote:
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Hang on, I need a moment...

So.. Lemme try and get this straight. North-Korea is saying that MILITARY EXERCISES are pushing the two countries to the brink of war? Not, you know, the sinking of the South-Korean battleship by North-Korea?

Or, you know, the shells being fired over the border that killed four people recently? And shoot far enough to apparently hit the South-Korean capital?

Why hasn't America invaded these guys yet? They've done it for less..

America's relationship with China is pretty much a balancing act right now, attacking North Korea could cause a major domino effect.


Concession: I admit that it would indeed be very risky. Elaboration: I would be very surprised if anything of that kind would really occur by the US right now. Antithesis: It would however be very costly to China if they would protest too much, as has been mentioned.

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Villerar wrote:
Jesus Loves You! wrote:
|~DVDV~| wrote:
Attacking Iraq had nothing to do with fighting, it had to do with oil and money.

Ignorant children
Clearly if we wanted anything from Iraq, we would've taken it by now, correct? After all, we overthrew their government and could have essentially done whatever we wanted. So, where's all the oil?


Assertion: Claiming that Iraq was attacked for oil amongst other things cannot be disproven by pointing out that the US have not stolen significant amounts of oil. Query: What would make you think it would? Clarification: Iraq was attacked for a variety of reasons, one of which was having neo-conservative ideologues in government (Apostrophe: Something very nasty indeed.) who genuinely feared the presence of WMDs (Elaboration: Admittedly there were WMDs in Iraq, but they have been dated prior to the Gulf War.), perhaps a way to take out a threat to Kuwait and possibly but not demonstrably a tactic to weaken the OPEC.

I don't doubt at all that many politicians supported the war for the purpose of profiting from oil, saying that the war was waged specifically for oil would be simple ignorance. America's government doesn't follow one simple set of ideals; there are thousands of political figures, each with their own motives and agenda. The only way a war would ever be waged specifically over oil would be if every politician was going to profit from it.

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Oh no, I'm just saying that it's a definite factor. Exaggeration for emphasis and all that. It's what I believe has been the difference between North Korea and Iraq. "War is a merchant's delight"

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First off, the sunk battleship has not been proven to be N korea's fault. You are making an incorrect claim Hakker.

Also, what you guys seemingly aren't aware of is that N Korea has been attacking S Korea for decades, since the Korean War. This is definitely not the first time an attack was launched, not even close.

In the context of all the terrorism and assassination plots carried out over the past 50 years, I don't see what the big deal is and I don't understand why Korea and the world chose this of all things to freak out over.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20100416/as-skorea-ship-sinks

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