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I actually bring discussion to the table. Not just blowing Sakurai's dick 24/7.
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I consider myself a casual smasher by all means, but I personally found both characters to play and handle very differently. The only reason I was dissappointed with Toon Link is because I felt that Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass provided much more content to work into a coherent moveset (grapple hook, deku leaf, the various songs he plays with the baton come to mind specifically) as opposed to moves that mainly copy the aestetics and mechanics of another character. I'm still glad the character was worked into Smash though since I enjoy his design and source game.
I'm glad you can at least concede that they have the exact same aesthetic, unlike Geno, who thinks they are completely different in every way.

I'm not completely blind to property differences. I know Toon Link's Spin Attack sucks you in and is multi-hitting and that his down air propels him downward. But they're still clones.

You people just have a very, very strict definition of clone.
By the logic Geno is using, not even Melee had any clones.


Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:34 pm
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Ness_Success wrote:
Also why haven't you guys started just skipping Jucks posts yet?

Because it's entertaining to debate with someone that can't win and won't change their mind. They just keep going with all kinds of nonsense like "I ignore you statements, because my opinion is the only valid one" and "your definitions don't count even though they're commonly agreed upon by many people". Sometimes they resort to "you're only ignoring me because you know I'm right", which you think would solve everyone's problem, but it doesn't because as soon as they think they won they start arguing everything, even if they don't believe it themselves. So since you can win either way it's more fun just to lead them on and get a good chuckle every time they do or say something ridiculous.

Juck is one of the fun ones that thinks they can win arguments without any evidence except personal belief, without the common sense to realize their personal belief is effectively rebutted by LITERALLY anyone saying they belief the opposite. There's a reason "proof" isn't called "belief".

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Just ignore juck guys...

Getting some more detail on those smash run games is really nice, and makes me want to play it more.

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To be honest I was really hyped for Smash Run, but now, if you can't manually choose which final match you want, I probably won't play it much. And if you can, well, there are just certain character types that will do better. Personally I would play a lot of climbing matches as Peach or Jiggs, since they can (presumably) still knock people straight up reliably, so I can force people to be held back by hitting them into DANGER ZONES!

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Juck is one of the fun ones that thinks they can win arguments without any evidence except personal belief, without the common sense to realize their personal belief is effectively rebutted by LITERALLY anyone saying they belief the opposite. There's a reason "proof" isn't called "belief".
you realize there's no argument to begin with

i'm explaining my opinions to you and you're trying to refute them as if I give a s*** to have my opinion changed

I don't even want to like the s*** characters you like
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rebutted by LITERALLY anyone saying they belief the opposite
why should I care

I've given justification for every single one of my opinions by the way
the only refutations I've received are questions to questions (which solves nothing) and "your opinion is retarded"


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Juck wrote:
Deciton_Reven wrote:
Juck is one of the fun ones that thinks they can win arguments without any evidence except personal belief, without the common sense to realize their personal belief is effectively rebutted by LITERALLY anyone saying they belief the opposite. There's a reason "proof" isn't called "belief".
you realize there's no argument to begin with

i'm explaining my opinions to you and you're trying to refute them as if I give a s#%$& about your s#%$& opinion

I don't even want to like the s#%$& characters you like
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rebutted by LITERALLY anyone saying they belief the opposite
why should I care

I've given justification for every single one of my opinions by the way
the only refutations I've received are questions to questions (which solves nothing) and "your opinion is retarded"


If you consider things like "He sucks because it's s***" a valid way of justifying an opinion, then I guess you did.

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I'm sorry Juck but I was told that if I wanted to play with you anymore it would have to be related to SSB4, so once you get the game what game mode would you like to play (I'm fine with any of them)? Unless you wanted to wait until you got a certain character unlocked, of course, just hit me up whenever, I'll be here. Perhaps I can even help you if I figure out to unlock them first?

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Ness_Success wrote:
If you consider things like "He sucks because it's s***" a valid way of justifying an opinion, then I guess you did.
wow

I literally just listed out every single character I hated in the roster and gave a succinct, summarized reason as to why

just ignore that though, it'll help you "win" this "argument"
Deciton_Reven wrote:
I'm sorry Juck but I was told that if I wanted to play with you anymore it would have to be related to SSB4, so once you get the game what game mode would you like to play (I'm fine with any of them)? Unless you wanted to wait until you got a certain character unlocked, of course, just hit me up whenever, I'll be here. Perhaps I can even help you if I figure out to unlock them first?
until all of the characters that I hate get justified, I don't see any reason to even get this f*** game

you wanna do that for me or...

your problem is, instead of giving me a reason to like the characters
you're telling me why my reasons for disliking them are invalid

I mean you realize that i'm still going to dislike the characters no matter what, right?
if you take away my reasons for disliking them, i'm just going to try to find other reasons

and I WILL find other reasons

unless you give me a reason to like them. that's something I can't refute
as long as I like whatever it is you think i'd like


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Juck wrote:
Ness_Success wrote:
If you consider things like "He sucks because it's s#%$&" a valid way of justifying an opinion, then I guess you did.
wow

I literally just listed out every single character I hated in the roster and gave a succinct, summarized reason as to why

just ignore that though, it'll help you "win" this "argument"


My point being that most, if not all of your 'justifications' are purely opinion based, or you're just being extremely picky, like how Animal Crossing, despite being one of Nintendo's most popular franchises since it's original release, doesn't have a big enough legacy.

That and you wanted him to be named Fred or whatever.

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Ness_Success wrote:
My point being that most, if not all of your 'justifications' are purely opinion based.
translation: you can't have an opinion

I mean you probably didn't mean it that way

but that's exactly what you just said


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Juck wrote:
Ness_Success wrote:
My point being that most, if not all of your 'justifications' are purely opinion based.
translation: you can't have an opinion

I mean you probably didn't mean it that way

but that's exactly what you just said


I mean it'd be different if your opinions weren't s***.

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Get back on topic.

Last warning.

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Does anyone plan on getting a digital copy for 3DS?

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I don't plan on it, but I might if they run out at my GameStop.


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Ness_Success wrote:
Does anyone plan on getting a digital copy for 3DS?

Not in a million f*** years

Why would you ever buy a digital game from Nintendo when their downloads are system-based instead of account-based?


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