he is indeed really fast for his weight, but he is REALLY BIG, falcon and fox can own him in any way they want. Just look at that, i killed ridley in 26% with an Uair > Knee XD

So, small characters that are agile and fast with combos can own Ridley?
Actually, all big characters in general?

Big Characters are fast tanks but they can be comboed easily.

Will the AI spam the shield in 0.8?
When I fight them, I have a hard time attacking them.

Somehow I knew when the postcount in here went from 79 to 87 it had something to do with an argument. But I'll answer other posts before commenting on that.

It was also put up on the Smashboards thread, the Crusade forums, and our Facebook page, so it wasn't only put here.

-If you read the description, it distinctly stated that there was still some balancing to do for Ridley, specifically his Final Smash's impaler hitbox (same thing as DK's S-Special) not doing enough hitstun.
-Ridley was built to be a spacing monster, lol. He has a lot of good disjoints and has ways to keep his opponents at bay, but he actually can get some combos in.
-Mind you that was one of the first times I played as Ridley, lol. I'm terrible with him.


Still waiting on sprites, tbh. At the moment, basically all of our spriters are working on newcomers save for AEM who's doing Dedede. I'll definitely put some of the vets with no (good) sprites up on the priority list though.

Now on the topic of the "argument":

We're not "blaming the community". We're just a bit irked at how our videos spontaneously get dislikes and very bad comments whenever they're posted here. Geno himself actually tried to clear things up on the Ridley preview.

What I don't get is how us devs can all be on such good terms and enjoy what both games have to offer, while both games' fanbases can be so hostile to one another.
To be completely honest, after your 0.8 demo came out, our chatbox was entirely "OOH I got 5.86 as Lloyd in BtT" and "Who do you think is going to be top of the tier list" and other things like that. We only got back to "business as usual" around yesterday. Our community and our developers have the full capacity to enjoy both games, and we do. Felipe's been challenging you guys with Break the Targets, and it's been a lot of fun, friendly competition between him, Tid, and others who do BtT. I've made like 4 combo videos out of 0.8 so far for a variety of characters as well, and recently got accepted into your BR after making a massive Yoshi guide, among other things.
And something I'd like to note here is that this isn't the SSF2 forums. This is the McLeodGaming forums, which happens to have an SSF2 section. I personally try never to mention Crusade in that section, and Felipe doesn't make mentions of it either.


As I stated above, the Crusade community isn't actually hostile to SSF2's community. It's only when a bunch of random users come by and post total crap about how Crusade is a cheap knock-off and SSF2 will always be better that the Crusade community fights back and everything burns up. As far as I'm aware, no member of the Crusade community has come over to MG and (purposefully) started a big flame war about how one is better than the other. This may have happened in the past, but not in the year that I've been around. Whenever I see this start to happen, I make sure to go over and shut them up because the Crusade community listens to me very well. However, people from the SSF2 community doing this is actually a common occurrence on our videos and our thread on Smashboards.

One of the reasons I made this thread in the first place was to try and expand our community and get people to stop being so biased. Not by stealing members or anything like that, but by showing them that the game isn't some "terrible copy" of SSF2. As you can see from some of the posts in this thread, there are actually some people who are excited for our next demo, and they probably wouldn't know about it if I hadn't made this thread. I also had a PM conversation with someone who decided to try out Crusade because there was a short discussion about it on the SSF2 general discussion thread (me making a quick review of your 0.8 demo and mentioning that I was a Crusade dev, then people were like "What's Crusade?" and others said "Another Super Smash Flash fangame", which obviously I had to correct) and they didn't know what it was before then.

Sorry for the long rant post, I had to make it somewhere. It just seriously irks me that the developers of both games can be on such good terms with each other while the communities are constantly bickering over nothing.

Maybe ^this can answer why SSF2 fans are biased against Crusade.
Personally, I like Crusade for the characters that no one woud expect (Duck Hunt Dog).
I can list more, but I don't want to start another war over two games based from Brawl.
Everyone has their way of making a game, so it may not be what people want, but can still be fun either way.

Our game is more based on 64 and melee xD

And btw, yeah, cpus are harder than ever, they can shield almost with frame perfection and Lvl 10 cpus L CANCELS ALL HIS AERIALS.

Looks like I have to start at level 1 CPUs...

When you get used to l cancel everything will be easier (You can even buffer them if you hold shield and let it go in landing instead of rpessing shield when you land)

Will there ever be Mac compatibility? I want to get my hands on this game.

There will be one, but we dont know when XDD

Wine seems to work ok for Crusade.

Still not sure about when, but it is most definitely on our list. For the time being, I believe people have mentioned a .exe emulator for Macs called Wine.

Dangit felipe. >.<

Can't you export the GMK file to GM 8.0 mac and just export it like that?

Most definitely not to 8.0. One of the most common scripts was changed from GM version 7.0 to 8.0 (one of the sprite loading scripts) so if 8.0 was used the menu wouldn't even load.
*speaking from experience, lol*
We could probably get a mac version of 7.0 though. Just need to find someone with the money to invest in that.

How much does it cost? Just asking.. 20 bucks?
Or same as the 8.0 price?