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Critical Hit is very far from the best, its the best in terms of KO ability as it pretty much always KO's, but thats only if you can hit with it. Critical Hit is one of the easiest Final Smashes to dodge, because it telegraphs itself.

I find Mr. Game & Watch's to be pretty good, as its jump height is huge, and its really hard to escape from. He can follow opponents almost anywhere, and if there is somewhere he cant go, he can just wait for them to come back to the stage, since characters always have to return or risk dying. Yes i know, some people can dodge this easily, but many people fall prey to this, so imo its a very good one.

Ganondorf for top tier, he's one of the few characters that can combo into his, use Flame Choke on the ground then the Final Smash right after, its inescapable as long as Flame Choke hits. :P

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Thundaga_T2 wrote:
it pretty much always KO's, but thats only if you can hit with it.

No s***, that's the definition, and I'm sure everybody knows what it does.
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Critical Hit is one of the easiest Final Smashes to dodge, because it telegraphs itself.

I use it as a counter to a very powerful and slow move. The person playing Marth has to time it just as much as the person targeted by him.


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Matthew the Thief wrote:
Thundaga_T2 wrote:
it pretty much always KO's, but thats only if you can hit with it.

No s#%$&, that's the definition, and I'm sure everybody knows what it does.
Thundaga_T2 wrote:
Critical Hit is one of the easiest Final Smashes to dodge, because it telegraphs itself.

I use it as a counter to a very powerful and slow move. The person playing Marth has to time it just as much as the person targeted by him.

I would say the best Final Smash, is the one easiest to use, and the one easiest to score KO's with, Critical Hit isnt easy to use, therefore it cannot be one of the best. Not all characters have slow punishable attacks.

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Thundaga_T2 wrote:
I would say the best Final Smash, is the one easiest to use, and the one easiest to score KO's with, Critical Hit isnt easy to use, therefore it cannot be one of the best. Not all characters have slow punishable attacks.

Which means you have to be good with him to use it. The fact that you say it isn't the best, means you're not that great using Marth, otherwise you should have no problem landing a hit.


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Matthew the Thief wrote:
Thundaga_T2 wrote:
I would say the best Final Smash, is the one easiest to use, and the one easiest to score KO's with, Critical Hit isnt easy to use, therefore it cannot be one of the best. Not all characters have slow punishable attacks.

Which means you have to be good with him to use it. The fact that you say it isn't the best means that you're aren't that great using Marth, otherwise you should have no problem landing a hit.

I am good with Marth, and i can land hits with that move, but the fact that its easier to dodge it than some other Final Smashes, makes it lower on the list in my opinion. Just cuz i can use it well, does not make it a good attack. If everyone can use it well (not counting noobs) then it should be a candidate for best Final Smash.

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Thundaga_T2 wrote:
Matthew the Thief wrote:
Thundaga_T2 wrote:
I would say the best Final Smash, is the one easiest to use, and the one easiest to score KO's with, Critical Hit isnt easy to use, therefore it cannot be one of the best. Not all characters have slow punishable attacks.

Which means you have to be good with him to use it. The fact that you say it isn't the best means that you're aren't that great using Marth, otherwise you should have no problem landing a hit.

I am good with Marth, and i can land hits with that move, but the fact that its easier to dodge it than some other Final Smashes, makes it lower on the list in my opinion. Just cuz i can use it well, does not make it a good attack. If everyone can use it well (not counting noobs) then it should be a candidate for best Final Smash.

If that's the case, then there shouldn't be a debate over which final smash is the best, since if you're good enough with a character, their final smash should be easier too.

Moving on, what new items do you guys want in 4?


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More Zelda items. <3 That's all I can really say.

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More Zelda items. <3 That's all I can really say.

Sometimes in Brawl, I play as Link vs. Ganondorf and turn only the Zelda items on. It's pretty fun imo.


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We need another pokemon item besides the pokeball. A weapon from Kid Icarus: Uprising would be kind of cool too.

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I'd like to see the Blue Shell, serving the same purpose as in SSF2. I'd love for the Red Shell to return.

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Matthew the Thief wrote:
Misaki Mei wrote:
More Zelda items. <3 That's all I can really say.

Sometimes in Brawl, I play as Link vs. Ganondorf and turn only the Zelda items on. It's pretty fun imo.

THAT'S IT
NO ITEMS OTHER THAN ZELDA
ZELDA CHARACTERS ONLY
ZELDA DESTINATION

Oh, and for items, I think there should be something like the Pegasus boots which make you charge forward and attack at the same time.

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Pegasus Boots from Ocarina would be kinda cool. You can run around off stage for like 5 seconds before falling or w/e.

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Tid wrote:
Pegasus Boots from Ocarina would be kinda cool. You can run around off stage for like 5 seconds before falling or w/e.

Oh, I was referring to the ones in other games where you charge and stuffs. But that would be interesting, yes. Iron boots would be funny too. Un-equip them in midair, allowing them to drop on enemies.

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Misaki Mei wrote:
Tid wrote:
Pegasus Boots from Ocarina would be kinda cool. You can run around off stage for like 5 seconds before falling or w/e.

Oh, I was referring to the ones in other games where you charge and stuffs. But that would be interesting, yes. Iron boots would be funny too. Un-equip them in midair, allowing them to drop on enemies.

I picture those being wearable and not unequippable like the bunny hood. That would be interesting though, especially if the boots meteor smashed anyone they fell on.

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