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Refurin wrote:
One thing that bothered me personally about Crusade's controller support reveal was that none of the new things they showed off could be done on a keyboard, you are at a direct disadvantage for using a keyboard.

Except with a keyboard you can "accidentally" press the opponent's buttons so they screw up.
And this is the reason why tournaments only use controllers. The 360 stuff not being usable on akeyboard won't put you at any competitive disadvantage because keyboards aren't usable in tournaments anyway. (The only way I can see the keyboard being a disadvantage is on online mode but that's it).

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That isn't a big worry considering basically all tournaments for SSF2 are online, and you can use whatever control scheme you want.


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The game isn't exactly 'worse' off without 360 degree control, like you said;

Fox, Falco, Black Mage, Pikachu, Meta Knight, Zelda/Sheik and Ness would benefit from this and their skillcaps would consequently increase.

I love me some higher skill ceiling, but it's always up to you guys by the end of the day; I think we all should know that while we're speculating BETA coming out in less than 30 days.

...

Man.

After coming this far, it's like I want BETA to release later and later for more potential content and a more stable game...
Kinda ironic.

Let's see if we can break the curse of not releasing on the date we've been confirmed to.

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^I think games like Sonic 06 taught us all that a delayed but stable game is better than a rushed but buggy game.

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remember when 9a and 9b were literally unfinished on release
when 9a came out you couldnt use smash balls
when 9b came out dk didnt have a victory animation
id rather have more delays

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How about an option which enables and disables 360 degree movement, if that is possible?

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How about an option which enables and disables 360 degree movement, if that is possible?


And an option that allows either tap or hold for angling on keyboards for now would be fantastic, too.

I'd get used to either option with time.

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Welp, while I was playing Melee's Classic Mode, I remembered Beta was getting a Classic Mode and I thought it'd beneat if the mode had "pairings" (for instance, you fight against with characters that have similar traits or have something in common, for example: Ness and Mewtwo because both were physics, Peach and Zelda becuse both are princesses etc). The pairings also appear on a specific stage.
I thought it'd be fun to speculate pairings for this game's Classic Mode. It would also invoke pairings of characters with certain costumes.
I'll also be naming the teams. Enjoy?

*Bombastic Bombers
Wario & Bomberman. Both had a crossover in the Game Boy named Wario Blast! Starring Bomberman (it was actually an edit of the 1st Bomberman GB).
Stage: Bomb Factory.

*Flying Foxes
Fox and Tails. Both are foxes and have flying vehicles (a ship and a plane respectively)
Stage: Sky Sanctuary Zone

*Water Benders
Black Mage and Mega Man. Both can use water :chibirobo:
Stage: Steel Diver

*Green Thumbs
Peach and Isaac. Peach can use veggies and Isaac uses many plant moves. (Sorry if I'm triggering any GS fans, I haven't played it) Both with their green costumes of course.
Stage: Battlefield (Beta's is full of plants)

*Pink Puffballs
Kirby and Jigglypuff. Both are pink and round :chibirobo:
Stage: Smashville

*Ultra Rare Shinies
Pikachu and Jigglypuff. Both in their shiny costumes.
Stage: Saffron City

*Not Mario & Wario
Mario in Wario color and Wario in Mario color. Self explanitory.
Stage: Emerald Cave

*Classic Dudes
Mario (NES color) and Sonic (Classic Sonic color). Self explanitory.
Stage: Mushroom Kingdom I/Green Hill Zone

*Doppelgangers
Link (Dark Link costume) and Samus (Dark Samus costume). Nothin personnel kid :sonic:
Stage: Dracula's Castle

*Street Thugs
Sonic (Purple color) and Tails (Black)
Stage: Fourside.

*Dark Couple
Link (Dark Link color) and Zelda (Black color).
Stage: Hylian Skies, always in Dark World.

*Bounty Hunters
Samus and Captain Falcon. Both are bounty hunters :gameandwatch:
Stage: Crateria

*Macro Zoners
Mario and Chibi-Robo. A reference to Macro Zone from Super Mario Land 2.
Stage: Desk.

*Simian Sague
Donkey Kong and Luffy. I'd put Diddy instead of DK, but he isn't in yet :gameandwatch:
Stage: Gangplank Galleon.

*80s Pioneers
Mr Game & Watch and Pac-Man. Both are the oldest characters in Smash's history.
Stage: Flat Zone Plus/ PAC-MAZE

*Oozaru and Saiyan
Goku and Donkey Kong. Based on the fact that Goku can turn into a giant Gorilla monster called Oozaru. And DK can turn SSJ (?)
Stage: Final Destination

*Boy Meets Girl
Ness and Peach. Peach looks like Paula mmkay?
Stage: Saturn Valley/Fourside.

*Stealth Ninjas
Naruto and Sheik. Self explanitory.
Stage: Hidden Leaf Village.

Got any other team ideas? Post 'em here :chibirobo:

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Got any other team ideas? Post 'em here :chibirobo:

Fanta Sea Man and Red-colored Borb
Shivalry Buddies (Mage + Knight)

Binding Fellow and Small Vaccuum Tincan
Flower Buddies (Isaac's Trailer)

Demolitions Expert and CLEOD-BOT
They hate eachother but they both want to kick your a** so (Apex 2015 Trailer + Sandbag's Trailer)

Yellow-colored Space Pheasant and Fanta Sea Man
Do I need to explain this one :chibirobo:

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*Constipated Secret Blondes
Goku and Sonic. Both aren't blonde initially, but when their full power is needed they unleash it by constipating until their hair turns yellow :chibirobo:
Smash Ball frequency must be set to Very High.

*Animal Cruelty
DK and Bowser. Both are animals (a gorilla and a turtle) that due to their size will, rather than be abused, be the ones doing the abusing.
Both are also Mario's adversaries.

*1986 FTW
A random combination of Samus, Pit, Link and Zelda. The first entries in their respective series' all came out in 1986.
If Simon Belmont makes his way into SSF2, he will also be added to this sequence.

*1987 FTW
Black Mage and Mega Man in their NES outfits. The first entries in their respective series' came out in 1987.
If Snake, Bill Rizer or Ryu make their way into SSF2, they will also be added to this sequence.

*Damsels in Distress?
Peach and Zelda. Not only because they are princesses, but because in more recent games they have abandoned the whole "damsel in distress" stereotype.
AI behavior should be set to "Extremely Aggressive" if possible to illustrate this.

*Surprise Surprise!
Any combination of Black Mage, Captain Falcon and Jigglypuff. All were unlockables in the demos that they debuted in.
Stage is Chaos Shrine, Clock Town or Sand Ocean, as these were also unlockable in the demos that they debuted in.

*Get Off My Lawn!
Isaac and Ness, as both are kids who you'd want to chase away with a shotgun. Stage is the most grassiest stage in the game.

*Caww!
Falco and Captain Falcon, as both have traits of a certain carnivorous bird. Both also have sick looking vehicles.

*Gotta Go Fast
Captain Falcon and Sonic. For both of them, speed is key. Stage is Sand Ocean coz it moves fast :sonic:

*You Aint Supposed To Be Here
Chibi Robo and Luffy. Their inclusions in the game were, or are, notoriously disliked by many. Stage is whatever's the most hated stage in the game.

*f*** Weebs
Any combination of Ichigo, Naruto, Goku, Marth and Luffy. Self explanatory.

*Ocarina of Time
Link and Zelda/Sheik in their OoT outfits. I would have set a compulsory stage but Temple of Time has been lone gone unfortunately.

*Flawless Fedoras
Black Mage and Luffy, as both have nice looking wide-brimmed hats. Also compare their running animations :tails:

*Men In Black
Mr Game & Watch in regular skin and Sandbag in his black cloth. Stage is whatever's the blackest stage in the game.

*Mario Bros
'nuff said.

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☻Danny Nutcracker☻ wrote:
*Constipated Secret Blondes
Goku and Sonic. Both aren't blonde initially, but when their full power is needed they unleash it by constipating until their hair turns yellow :chibirobo:
Smash Ball frequency must be set to Very High.



Sonic doesn't constipate to turn super, just saiyan just saiyan


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remember when 9a and 9b were literally unfinished on release
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id rather have more delays


It might just be me, but I'd like Beta to be released with some minor/hidden bugs whether intentional or not...

As long as it's not TOO Gamebreaking

Something like Shells getting crazy if colliding with a Bob-Omb or something weirder...

And then upload a patch a month or so afterwards...

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"pairings" :chibirobo:


NOT ANIME
:captainfalcon: and :marth:
(I know F-Zero got an Anime, but I think iirc that FE also had an anime)

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^FE characters are always shammed for their anime-like art style anyway.
Though this is the first I've heard of F-Zero being considered "anime".

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F-Zero DID get an anime, its a joke about those 2 originating from video games, not anime... also, they're kinda the opposite of the Shonen 4. Originating from manga/anime, but appearing in video games.

:kirby: can also count due to the Kirby Anime

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