You're treating gay people as one social body. As if we're all being discriminated and hurt, and want to boycott, etc. There are some gay people in this world that actually think gay people should get off their high horses and assimilate into society, not throw themselves into it. Not be offended by some restaurants stance on things. In this period of time it's relatable to being mad at hating someone for disliking chocolate ice cream.

The way I see it, it's a lot like the history of slavery in America. A while back it was very socially acceptable to be racist. Now it isn't. A few years back it wasn't socially acceptable to be gay. Now in major states like new york or the more modern areas of California, it is for the most part. 1st world societies will look back on this issue in 100 years and realize how dumb the world was. For now, it's just wasting your brain cells to worry about it. Let the people who want to make reforms, make them. Eat wherever you want to eat. It really doesn't matter.

I'm not treating gay people as one social body, I'm treating my gay friends and myself and my boyfriend as one social body. For the most part, this is a pretty homogeneous group of people.

I'm personally just not the type of person who can passively wait for things to change. I'm not being arrogant, this just makes sense to me and I feel guilty if I'm not actively working to see a difference be made. I'm not "on a high horse" because I recognize injustice and want it gone. Things have certainly gotten better for LGBTQ citizens in the United States, but it is undeniable that equality is not there yet. You said, "Let the people who want to make reforms, make them." I want to make reforms. Boycotts are a form of protest, which is a part of reform. I am not boycotting Chick-Fil-A because I disagree with the CEO. I am not boycotting Chick-Fil-A in an effort to put them out of business. I am boycotting Chick-Fil-A because I don't want my money being used to endow people who want to outlaw civil marriage rights for same-sex couples.

I won't attempt to make others do what I'm doing, because not everyone has the same conviction as me. And I recognize that. People become my opponents when they are trying to directly (personally) or indirectly (impersonally) keep me from upholding my own beliefs and fight for my rights. Chick-Fil-A is putting their customers' money to a cause that scorns me and many others that are dear to me. I fail to see how this makes me self-righteous.

Fair enough, for the most part. But you see, that's the issue. A belief is a belief. As a citizen of America you have to respect that. You can disagree all you want, but they're enjoying the same fundamental rights that you are. Belief.

No, you or anyone else isn't on a high horse for that reason. The high horse comes from wanting everyone to think the way you do at this point in time. It's just not going to happen. The parades, the bracelets, it's all doing more harm than it helps. It effectively -separates- both parties. The idea shouldn't be 'well I'll be over here and do my thing gay pride 2012', it should be sitting down, as thinking of ways to open people's eyes without using a crowbar and some rainbow sprinkles.

Nobody I keeping you from upholding your belief at all. Seriously, nobody. Just because someone who runs a restaurant chain disagrees with homosexuality does not in any way hold you back from in fact being a homosexual. It goes back to being on a high horse, and being dramatic. Just turn a cheek to them. Let them soak in what whatever they want. Those who have the political power to fight this issue (and they have) will work on it.

Just to reiterate, my issue with Chick-Fil-A is not it's beliefs. It's that their money is being given to groups who want to keep my aspiration of someday having the gayest wedding in the f*** universe illegal in most of the country lol. When I mean I aim to uphold my belief, I mean I want to have same-sex marriages recognized in every state in the country, and to be honest, I don't think that's really imposing. It's more imposing to have a religious definition of marriage be the one that every citizen of the United States is forced to accept. The belief that two men or two women can be married does not belong to any religion, while the belief that two men and two women can't get married is distinctly characteristic of certain religions, Christianity in particular. The self-righteousness lies in thinking that if people start doing things that don't align with Christian laws then they are damaging to the family unit, to the institution of marriage, and to the nation, even.

My belief isn't simply that I have the right to love another man. Christians don't really say that being homosexual is wrong. It's that I deserve to be legally permitted to marry him in any US territory.

I'm also not the type to be obtrusive with my methods of bringing people to understand that homosexuality is okay. I've never attended Pride, because it's just not my style. I think the key to progress is empathy, not militancy and shock value. Pride, however, is more of a social gathering than a form of protest or a political statement. I think it's great for members of a community to congregate and celebrate being who they are and not being ashamed, like many people have tried to convince them they should be. It's just nice to be around people who understand and have experienced similar struggles. I'm just not personally big on feeling like a part of a large group, but I can relate to a lot of people who know how it feels to be given the short end of the stick and to feel like they are living the wrong way. The parades, the bracelets, they're just saying to all the lonely gays, "You belong somewhere," and I don't really see anything wrong with that.

geno i understand and appreciate your point about gay people not being offended because some restaurant has opinions and is choosing to express those

however in the same comparison you made to racism earlier, you should also note that nowadays, racism itself is actually not okay in a lot of ways both socially and legally, it's not just 'being black' that has become okay. in that same way a company expressing disdain for a social group of any type (it's a grouping whether you like it or not) that has done nothing wrong as a part of society should be at the very least discouraged and people jumping to attack them is entirely justified.

I don't get what all the fuss is about.

To all those over the top gays and lesbians: If you like to do things with the same sex in bed, you can do that, don't try to make it something special or totally throw it out there.

To all those anti-gays: Stop giving a s***, why should you even care what they do when you're not in their relationship?

To all those gays and lesbians and straights that don't really care if other people are homosexual or not: Good job.

That's what I think.

I'm calling heterosexual privilege on that first statement. If a gay man talks about sex, it's gross and nobody wants to hear that. But heterosexual men are praised for how much pussy they can get... Straight people brag all the time about what they like to do in bed...

That all depends on who you're talking to. People who brag about sex are douchebags anyway.

Agreed.

Nobody wants to hear about gay sex because it is wrong. God, mother nature, buddha, the universe, Michael Jackson, or whatever the f*** you believe made male genitals for the purpose of making baybehs although yes some do this for fun. You can love each other but to most, sex is just wrong for gays.

And now some ranting:
According to gay logic, those who don't support them, hate them, and thus are evil. Using this logic they are dominating this country, kids will start growing up with gay superheroes, videogames are already being manipulated, and even television.

aye gay activists are hypocrites
note that when one says "i believe it's right" it tends to conveniently never occur to them that it's only what they "believe"

So it begins.

are you serious though

Oh yeah, that too.

I'm a fan of equal rights, but it seems to me that the homosexuals are gaining more and more power by the second. I second Master Chief's statement about how those who don't support them, hate them, and therefore are evil. I shall not comment on anything else, though.