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I had a sudden thought. I haven't looked at much just now, but is there really nothing wrong here!? ( :facepalm: there must be. But throwing it out there... because you're so dang picky! :x )

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Rey_J wrote:
I had a sudden thought. I haven't looked at much just now, but is there really nothing wrong here!? ( :facepalm: there must be. But throwing it out there... because you're so dang picky! :x )

Heh, you're thinking outside the box now. Well.... you're half right. I'll say that, which isn't enough.

Im in calculus, I would know. :P

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Roymaster4 wrote:
I'm in calculus

Darn you! I'm only in Geometry! I'm in 9th grade, age 14, honors... whatever...
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-2 = -2 :arrow: the given.
4 - 6 = 1 - 3 :arrow: stuff that each equals -2.
4 - 6 + 9/4 = 1 - 3 + 9/4 :arrow: added numbers to both sides, remaining equal.
(2 - 3/2)^2 = (1 - 3/2)^2 :arrow: see below
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-2+(3/2)^2=-2+(3/2)^2...
(2-1.5)(2-1.5)=(1-1.5)(1-1.5)...
or rather, (2)^2+(-1.5)^2=(1) STOP
Why the hell is -2 becoming a +1? Right now I'm getting the idea that for the -'s and +'s to be reversed, the whole equation was x'd or /'d by -1, making the +'s -'s and -'s +'s. But 2 should not become 1 magically!?

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Rey_J wrote:
Darn you! I'm only in Geometry! I'm in 9th grade, age 14, honors... whatever...
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-2 = -2 :arrow: the given.
4 - 6 = 1 - 3 :arrow: stuff that each equals -2.
4 - 6 + 9/4 = 1 - 3 + 9/4 :arrow: added numbers to both sides, remaining equal.
(2 - 3/2)^2 = (1 - 3/2)^2 :arrow: see below
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-2+(3/2)^2=-2+(3/2)^2...
(2-1.5)(2-1.5)=(1-1.5)(1-1.5)...
or rather, (2)^2+(-1.5)^2=(1) STOP
Why the hell is -2 becoming a +1? Right now I'm getting the idea that for the -'s and +'s to be reversed, the whole equation was x'd or /'d by -1, making the +'s -'s and -'s +'s. But 2 should not become 1 magically!?

Getting confused yet?
I could give a hint, but that might give it away.

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The only confusion in my life in math is proofing. [please wait for response...]

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Rey_J wrote:
The only confusion in my life in math is proofing. [please wait for response...]

lol, k... *Waits*

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Okay, on paper, I'm seeing something... ignoring the 9/4 crap, I'm seeing
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Original:
4-6 = 1-3
(2)^2 = (1)^2
4 = 1... :(
Thinking around part 1:
4-6 = 1-3
4-6+6 = 1-3+6
4 = (1+3 = 4) :smile:
Thinking around part 2:
4-6 = 1-3
for the transition, did we manipulate each side differently? Like, adding 6 to one side and 3 to the other, upsetting the balance? (I'll look at it bass ackwards...
(2-3/2)^2 = (1-3/2)^2 becomes
4-6+9/4 = 1-3+9/4 ... ... ...whoever wrote these steps must've progressed wrong. Duh. That was no help. :sweat: )
1^2=1, while2^2=4, and it seemed 1=4 in the problem. I do believe I'm seeing the problem here, but I can't pull out the exact location... but it has to do with

we want these things equalled and squared...
2 and 1 are close, 3 doubled is 6, those are the aside values
added together in the 3rd line, where 2^2+(3*2) = 1^2+(3*1)
could this be the connection!? (I wish my math-solving mind could talk in a language other than processing... :cry: )

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The answer is simpler than you're thinking.

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RoyMaster4 wrote:
The answer is simpler than you're thinking.

thing is, in order to pinpoint a simple answer at times like these (when you've rejected all my other words), I must go complex to find someone else's satisfaction.

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Rey_J wrote:
RoyMaster4 wrote:
The answer is simpler than you're thinking.

thing is, in order to pinpoint a simple answer at times like these (when you've rejected all my other words), I must go complex to find someone else's satisfaction.

,,,

Hint:
There are 2 answers. How?

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RoyMaster4 wrote:
There are 2 answers. How?

No... you ruined it for me... :-_-: Wait! :aha: I'm picking up something (again, imagine that!)...
has something to do with the argument of doubling and squaring, both being done but... at.. different... times!

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Rey_J wrote:
RoyMaster4 wrote:
There are 2 answers. How?

No... you ruined it for me... :-_-: Wait! :aha: I'm picking up something (again, imagine that!)...
has something to do with the argument of doubling and squaring, both being done but... at.. different... times!

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You're thinking about this wrong. I even gave a good hint.

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Well, are you sure? My post was a bit odd...
I think there are steps in between what we see that weren't listed.
About the *2 & ^2 happening, imagine like this:
Type A: Double both side. Then square both sides.
Type B (the wrong way): Double one side. "as long as I do it later, it'll still count, right?" Then square both sides. "Okay, now I'll double that other side."
Or maybe it's a squaring-before-doubling issue.
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At the time you learned this, in a day, how many of these did you have to solve and quickly? You're quite literally giving me a headache. :sweat: (Speaking of which, I better get going on my homework soon...)

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You're still wrong...

Final Hint:
2 squared=4
-2 squared=4
Square Root 4=?

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OMG, such an idiot, I am... :facepalm: forgetting something so simple... for that,
^2 root of 4 would be whatever fits in here |#| and = +4... in other words, +/-4... but I must ask: does it really get THAT F***IN' RETARDED and MUNDANE at the level of math where you're up at (calculus... what is it anyway!?)? 'Cause that was preposterous if that was the answer. I see no significance at all here. There may as well be no math problem. :evil: All this could ever serve as is a brainteaser. And it didn't even tease my brain. It gave me a headache. Because it was pointless. IMMA FIRIN MAH LAZER!!! Image (it's a new smiley! :nod: )
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(also, please don't tell me you wait for e-mail notification of topics in this forum, they always come, like, a half-hour later than when the actual event happens; I open up the subscriptions page and refresh it over and over, all day long...)

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