I would love to see more discussion on Smash 64.

How do people feel about the newly updated tier list?

http://www.ssbwiki.com/Tier_list#Super_Smash_Bros._tier_list

Also how many people actually enjoy Smash 64 compared to the other games?

I think that 64 was good it was fast paced and was easier to get into then melee. I do feel like I wouldn't get used to no side special but yeah it was good.

I miss Japanese Link from Smash 64. He was a high tier.

i can't think of how i can explain that PM Samus' ice beam switch is really awkward and doesn't really seem like good game design

there's something weird about it. it's needlessly gimmicky, i guess? being activated via taunt isn't really great either

Didn't like project m in general, wayyyy too much relying on melee and gimmicks.

they go out of their way to actively undo changes brawl made to some characters to make them more like their melee counterparts, then they turn around and add something dumb like the ice beam

my opinion on project m is that they seem to only want to add a new good thing after they've added a bad thing to balance it out

i don't care to play it

The only cool thing Project M had going were costumes.

But then those quickly turned to s*** as well since half of the costumes are made up s*** like 'Jet Set Sonic' and 'Ninja Squirtle'.

i just don't get why it's dumb. i can tell that it is, but i have a hard time putting it into words

whats ice beam
why do yall hate it so much?

'Ice Beam' is an alternative gun mode for Samus in Project M, wherein she trades away her multi-hit fire explosions for single-hit ice bursts (for her cannon moves) upon activation.

Ninja squirtle looks dope doe*

why would you want ninja squirtle when you could have squirtle squad squirtle

note: i haven't played project m because the f*** hacks still don't have a PAL release so i don't know if it already has squirtle squad squirtle or not

if it does then that's cool and if it doesn't then why the f*** not

it kind of does
if you do the taunt where squirtle flips and press either A or B at the moment he lands he puts on sunglasses which can be broken

goddamn even the taunts have needlessly complicated gimmicks

link's ocarina

the ocarina is pretty eh but it makes more sense than

"okay, uhh, do squirtle's taunt, no no the one where he flips, then uh.. press... A? NO, B. PRESS B WHEN HE LANDS. and he puts on sunglasses. which can break."

the ocarina at least uses B to cancel like OOT does