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what's the difference


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NZ wrote:
what's the difference

falco is better :smug:


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Shinespike not gimping a good part of the cast at like 10% isnt a bad thing, you know :pikachu: Id argue the "problem" you mentioned is because of how much better recoveries are in this game in comparism to Melee bar a few minor exceptions, not neccessarily because Shine is too weak.

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TSF|Skylar wrote:
Shinespike not gimping a good part of the cast at like 10% isnt a bad thing, you know :pikachu: Id argue the "problem" you mentioned is because of how much better recoveries are in this game in comparism to Melee bar a few minor exceptions, not neccessarily because Shine is too weak.

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i get that but im just saying it's really less effective to use and i don't think the "problem" falls towards better recoveries but the move itself plus when it comes to recoveries i think they're good in this game but i want falco's recovery to be buffed a little


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IMO....Shine-spiking is strong enough.

Fox of all people deserves a buff?
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TheBeep wrote:
IMO....Shine-spiking is strong enough.

Fox of all people deserves a buff?
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it's not like he's first on the tier list like in melee


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He is still a very solid high tier at worst. Not exactly a position where you should be recieving buffs on one of the most versatile moves in the game.

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TSF|Skylar wrote:
He is still a very solid high tier at worst. Not exactly a position where you should be recieving buffs on one of the most versatile moves in the game.

A solid top tier, but yeah I agree with you and beep.

Some nerfs are fine, but I want some buffs to his recovery in compensation for the nerfs.

Edit:
Fox's up throw now looks like it was buffed instead of nerfed because the base knockback being decreased helped the move be better.

Despite being able to D.I., it appears that the hitstun was increased enough to get great follow up options like Fox can chain grab himself and possiby other fast fallers along with a few high fallers. So up throw was actually buffed instead of nerfed.

Fox is fast enough to keep up with the D.I. so kinda adding it is pointless at low percents. It probably will still comfirm at death percentages.

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