"Expansion" Character Moveset Speculation
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Yoshiblaze
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| | | | Yoshiblaze wrote: I've got quite the oddball: Pokemon Mystery Dungeon's Grovyle Universe: Pokemon Mystery Dungeon/Pokemon (Anime could also work) Game: Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald (GBA) or Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky, Time, and Darkness (DS) Standard-Jab 1: False Swipe (introduced in Pokemon Gold/Silver) Jab 2: A Second False Swipe Jab Finisher: X-Scissor (introduced in Pokemon Diamond and Pearl) Side Tilt: Fury Cutter; Good combo starter (Pokemon Gold/Silver) Side Smash: Chargeable version of Leaf Blade (Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire) Up Tilt: Swing his head, with the long leaf on his head doing damage. Can combo in to itself Up Smash: Upward Slash (Pokemon Red/Blue/Green (JP); Grovyle cannot learn Slash in the Pokemon games) Down Tilt: Low Sweep. Can meteor (Pokemon Black/White) Down Smash: Two slashes at the ground. Similar to 's Down Smash Aerials-NAir: Spins with the leaves on his arms extended FAir: Arching Leaf Blade. Similar to 's FAir, except it has more range, but weaker BAir: Leaf Blade. Ike's BAir from the main games DAir: Mega Kick. Can meteor (Pokemon Red/Green (JP)/Blue) Grabs and Throws-Type: No tether, 1 hand Pummel: Pound (PKMN Red/Blue) Forward: Tosses the opponent with one hand; Kill throw (Strength from PKMN Red/Blue) Down: Slam (PKMN Red/Blue) Up: Tosses opponent up, and hits them with the leaf on his head. Combo Starter Back: Spins and Slams opponent to the ground. Similar to Pit's Back Throw in the mains games Specials-Neutral: Bullet Seed (PKMN Ruby/Sapphire) - Five quick seeds shot at the target. No flinch Side: Quick Attack (PKMN Red/Blue) - Similar to 's Fox Illusion, but with no freefall effect. Can meteor Up: Aerial Ace (PKMN Ruby/Sapphire) - A damaging diagonal jump. Free Fall effect Down: (Decoy) Time Gear (PKMN Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time) - A reflector, similar to Pit's Mirror Shield from SSBB. Final Smash: Primal Dialga (PKMN Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time) - Summons Primal Dialga, which pitfalls nearby opponents and does massive damage with Roar of Time | | | | |
| | | | Quote: Some revisions: Dash Attack: A running Slash (again; PKMN Red/Blue) Grab REDUX! : Type: No tether, ONE Hand Pummel: Pound (PKMN Red/Blue) Added stuff:Idle: Checks claws, similar to Weavile's in Pokemon X & Y/Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire Taunts: Up & Down- Tosses a (fake) Time Gear up and catches it while posing Side- Turns into a substitute doll for half a second, then turns back Neutral- All lights dim around Grovyle and lighting flashes, reminiscent of his first appearance in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time, Sky, Darkness Victory Theme: An excerpt from "Dialga's Fight to the Finish!" from Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxS8YDjTpeg ) Remixed Victory Pose: Crosses his arms then suddenly moves them apart, revealing a (fake) Time Gear, and posing while smirking Defeat: Lucario's clap from the main games The following will use values from Super Smash Flash 2 for reference: Weight: (using SSF2, which puts Mario at 100) 89, slightly lighter than Dash/Run Speed: (Which puts Mario at 10) 11.3, slightly slower than Fall Speed: Normal- (Mario: 13) 11.8, slight faster than Fast- (Mario: 16) 15, tied with Jump, No Mario stats for this one: Normal- Above Average Short- (in terms of lowness to the ground) Above Average Running Start- Great Jab Resetting moves: Jab 1, Jab 2, Low Sweep (DTilt; >20%), Fury Cutter (STilt), NAir (Falling, hard to land) Color Swaps: [ Image ] | | | | |
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Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:46 pm |
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RagnorokX
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I have made a thing of beauty on an online music tracker(pulseboy). I have made the vicory theme for gallade! Download the .wav here: https://www.mediafire.com/#qfse0sqf7cue2 Please do not spam smilies. ~Kiki
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Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:09 pm |
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Nonya
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maybe you should use some other program. like synthesia or mario paint composer.
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Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:25 pm |
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RagnorokX
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maybe, but i didn't want to install anything.
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Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:28 pm |
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Starkiller
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| | | | mage wrote: Not a bad idea, though like you said, you barely knew half of the summited works{I'm pretty sure only like 1 of mine are even remotely known here} Though i'm sure this would make production and activity more encouraging here. I think it's good that more female and/or disney characters are being suggested, i just HATE frozen, i don't think ppl with a - biased towards a certain series/character should review it since mostly likely they will be harsher and more unfair in judging, myself included. The Review Size: - Fair size, he is 6'2 after all. Weight - I'd imagine having that armor would weigh something. Fall Speed. - This is a nice fall speed to go with. Jab - A ganondorf jab, strong but not good for combos, interesting. f-tilt - Like the above he seems to have some anti-air potential though he might need to relay on other moves for most ground to ground combat. D-Tilt - Good juggler started, and would visually look cool. Up Smash - Very interesting, seems like a good punisher for those trying to attack from behind as well. Aerials - Overall reminds me of a mix between mewtwo and lucas with some ganon mix in the b and d air. N-Spec - Interesting and usefull move, personally i would of gone with a projectile shield, maybe thats too basic. S-Spec - I like it more then i should really, but for doom i think he has enough types of projectiles to do something else, if out of ideas read about him in marvel or play other games he has been in to get more ideas{That what i did for chocobo moveset, i did some research on the japanese only games and replayed my copy of chocobo tales.} D-Spec - I'm thinking of that divekick game for some reason, it looks like a good move to use, though imo i would swap places of current S and D spec, though thats just me. U-Spec - I was thinking maybe make it like brawl pit's up-spec but i'm not sure if that type of aerial movement is frown upon here. Final Smash - I would of gone with the infinity gauntlets but this can also work. | | | | |
I wanted to give Doom a projectile shield, but based on moveset conventions it would have to go in d-spec or n-spec. The other contender for n-spec was the Finger Lasers, which I eventually decided to take because I wanted the potential to re-enact his most famous combo from the MvC series. So, if I still wanted to put in the projectile shield I'd have to put it in his d-spec, but that the only place I felt like the Foot Dive could go. After all, d-specs usually stay in place or go downward. So the projectile shield fell out of use. However, I just thought of how I can still incorporate a projectile shield. He can have a Yoshi-style shield, the shield is green (with a hexagon motif) and becomes red as it reaches critical levels. Quite a useful tool for someone so big. As for the s-spec, I really wanted to put something less known about Doom into his moveset, something that is left out of the spotlight but still iconic to his character. So I'm glad that you do enjoy this choice. I did want to give Doom omnidirectional flight, but then I felt like his recovery would be WAY too good for a heavy character. After all, he can use a more horizontally angled Foot Dive for recovery, his jump, and now he has flight? He does have lots of control in the air, so I tried to capture that in this up-spec. I might think a little bit more on the implication of Foot Dive + 3 boosts for recovery, maybe his Foot Dive should put him into helpless afterwards, or maybe not let the player control the trajectory at all.
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Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:08 pm |
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RagnorokX
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| | | | RagnorokX wrote: [ Image ] Gallade [ Image ] Gallade will be a unique character based around 2 things: comboing and mega evolution.He will combo easily, but his attacks deal low damage, but he still comboes extremely easily. All of his specials propel him in the air so he can keep up with his hapless punching bag. As you might of guessed, he has practically no kill options, with his strongest kill option killing at around 170-190 based on vertical height. However this is were MEGA EVOLUTION comes in. As he pulls of comboes and time passes, a bar, kind of like the KO punch meter, fills up. At any time he has some of that meter, he may mega evolve. He can mega evolve for a short time if the meter isn't full, and for a good 10 seconds if it is full. Mega evolved, his smashes and certain specials gain a major knockback buff, giving him the ability to kill at 100% easily. Physical Attributes: show Weight:Using Brawl weight values(which put mario at 98),101. Walking Speed: Using Brawl walk speed values(which puts mario at 1.1), 0.95. Running Speed: Still using Brawl, (which puts mario at 1.5), 1.3. Jumping Force:Yet again using Brawl,(which puts mario at 2.22), 2. DJ:Using Brawl, 1.7. Falling speed:Using Brawl,(which puts mario at 1.28),1.2. Fastfalling Speed:With brawl,(which has mario at 1.792), 1.68. Height: A bit taller than Mario Jab(fury cutter)3 quick slashes. Jab canceling into a grab can start a combo. jab1:1% jab2:2% jab3:3% F-Tilt(leaf blade)A slower slash infront of gallade, has disjointed hitbox. It knocks opponents to far away to followup, so its just a GTFO. Damage:4% D-Tilt(false swipe)A slash along the ground with virtualy no knockback, can be followed up with a grab or a jab Damage:3% U-Tilt(psycho cut)A slash upwards that leaves a short ranged projectile that knocks opponents behind you for mixups Damage:3% F-Smash(feint)A short teleport forwards with knockback that will kill 190-200%. Damage:4-8% D-Smash(slash)twin slashes on both sides, basicly greninja's d-smash. damage:5-7% U-Smash(giga impact)A blast of strength above him. Slow both in startup and cooldown. Gallades best kill move, in and out of mega evolution. kills fully charged around 155% out of mega, and 60% in mega. Dash Attack(Double Team)Shoots forward and trips the opponent. 1% N-Air(Close combat)A speedy flurry of swipes around himself, moving opponents back in range of his fair if they DI towards him. 5 hits one each side, 1% each F-Air(Cut)A Virtually lagless cut infront of him, his main combo tool. 4% D-Air(Shadow sneak) Disappears for a moment then strikes below him, weaker spike than wolf's from brawl. 6% B-Air(Dual Chop)twin slashes behind him, has followups if you fastfall. 2% each U-Air(focus blast)a blast upwards, spikes slightly stronger than D-Air. 6% N-Special:Psycho Cut. A long ranged projectile similair to Ichigos but only hits once and is a great combo starter, popping opponents into the air and towards you. When used in the air, it goes diagonally downwards and forwards, and pops foes hit towards you. Damage:3%
S-Special:X-Scissor. A quick slash in front of you that can switch you being comboed to them being comboed. However, if it misses, you are treated to endlag and a heavy punish. It can only be used once in the air and is Gallades best horizontal recovery move. Damage:5%
U-Special:Night Slash. Gallade swirls his "swords" around himself for a second, trapping opponents and finishing them with a good combo finisher. Gallades best vertical recovery, can be jump canceled when used on the ground for easy combos. 11 initial hits, each doing .5% and the finisher 6%.
D-Special:Mega Evolve. Gallade gains meter over time and for comboes which contributes to this move. 1-4 seconds not fully charged, 10 seconds if it is. This transfermation is noncancellable. X-Scissor gains kill power at high percents(135%), night slash 100-120% depending on vertical height, and all of his smashes gain much higher kill power. Along with this, every move he deals deals 1% more damage. Victory theme:The beginning of the Elite 4 battle them from DPP.Music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPQhMJ1NLXg(8 bit clip: https://www.mediafire.com/#qfse0sqf7cue2) Victory pose: Fires of two psycho cuts at the screen, sheathes his "swords", and smirks Losing reaction: Stares at the ground, rapidly sheathing and unsheathing his blades Taunt 1:Uses the move taunt Taunt 2:Goes into an ultra ball and comes out Taunt 3:Puts up a barrier(protect) then dissipates it Entance:An ultra ball is thrown on stage and it opens, revealing gallade Idle:Looks around and sheathes/unsheathes his blades EDIT1:UPDATE! specials and miscellaneous added! EDIT2:UPDATE!Ground standards added and miscellaneous finished! EDIT3:UPDATE!Aeriels finished, dash attack added, and completely done! | | | | |
COMPLETELY FINISHED!!! Feel free to review fully now!
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Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:01 pm |
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Mage
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Not sure if i should ask here but should i make a poll for what expansion movesets i should make and link it in my sig, i have plenty of ppl i want to make but don't want to make it just for myself and i don't want to spam, should i make a poll for that?
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Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:38 pm |
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TSF|Cookies
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Make them in any order... Then release them all at once and flood the thread with a sevenfold post
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Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:42 pm |
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Mage
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But...i might in in truuble D:
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Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:44 pm |
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RagnorokX
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Make a poll. It would be easier.
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Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:25 pm |
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Mage
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Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:30 pm |
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yamnow
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you now what character i want
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Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:20 pm |
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Kirb-Star
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Lanky Kong? Weird choice but I respect your opinion.
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Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:08 pm |
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Mage
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I'll most likely start posting 3 days after the poll, also I Won't be making Lanky Kong X_X he's too much of a feature length. Edit: Actually i'll just make a poll consisting of the 4 most voted characters and use a different poll maker that doesn't allow repeat voting >.<
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Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:20 pm |
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yamnow
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No, a new ganon is the correct answer
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Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:37 pm |
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