Mario needs moar prioirty in bair, dat be great.

The move is good as is, it doesn't need more "priority"

This is bugging me a bit. Mario has an at least decent combo game, good recovery, and a projectile. I don't see any big problems about him. Why does he get ranked so low in many people's tier lists? I know they're unofficial but there must be something that made people place him low.

Then again tiers are prolly still for queers.

Mario is a good character. His combo game still feel a bit weaker than it could be, but can be played to a strong viability. It's just there are many characters who just have stronger abilities overall above the level of Mario's abilities.

So it's like, Mario is good, but there are better characters?

Everything that Mario can do, someone else does better. Mario has good combo ability, but many characters can do better. He has a good recovery, but many characters have better ones. This list goes with his projectile, edgeguarding, etc. And many characters do many of these things better than Mario.

Have you seen how much trouble Mario can have against aerial characters? Samus' nair and Bombers fair all counter it.




It's more certered around the fact he's still too average. Characters nowadays are constantly outshining him in that regard with their abilities. He's definitely not the worst, but far from the best imo.



So then smarties, wanna discuss the Mario vs Samus MU?

Not bad. 50-50 maybe.

Yeah its probably 50-50 idk for sure since I don't use mario much so I'll look more into it.

Mario's platform game is above average at least. But mario needs a unique strength to set him apart. He needs more jab combos. He has some, like jab grab and jab down smash, however.

I think cape would just be hilarious if it had a bigger hitbox.

#TheGimpingPlumberWonder

I personnally really like Mario. Good mobility, good combo ability...decent approach options. Great smashes also.
And a decent projectile.
Also his recovery is way better than before and UpB is super easy to sweetspot.
Overall he's solid imo.

True dis.

I think this is how I would currently rank Mario's MU's:

Vs Samus - 50/50
Vs Puff - 70/30
Vs Link - 60/40 or 50/50
Vs DK - 35/65 or 70/30
Vs Ichigo - 30/70
Vs Naruto - 50/50
Vs Meta Knight - 50/50
Vs Kirby - 50/50
Vs Peach - ?
Vs Zelda - ?
Vs Sheik - 65/35
Vs Captain Falcon - ?
Vs Black Mage - ?
Vs Bomberman - ?
Vs Mega Man - 60-40
Vs Sonic - 50/50
Vs Fox - ?
Vs Yoshi - ?
Vs Marth - 60/40
Vs Lloyd - 50/50
Vs Goku - ?
Vs Pikachu - 60/40
Vs Wario - 60/40 or 50/50
Vs Chibi Robo - ?
Vs Zero Suit Samus - ?
Vs Ness - 60/40
Vs Tails - ?

Remember, this is all through personal experience. So my opnions my change as my Mario faces more players that are good with a specific character.

I think Mario vs Link and Mario vs Marth is worse than you give it credit for. How is he supposed to do any better against him than DK or Ichigo, who play the same zoning game? These should at least be disadvantageous for Mario. This is my matchup list, again based on personal experience.


Mario - 50/50 (I'm really not sure about this one)
DK - 40-60 to 30-70
Link - 45-55 to 35-65
Kirby - 55-45
Samus - 65-35
Megaman - 65-35
Fox - 50-50
Ness - 60-40
Pikachu - 55-45
Sonic - 50-50
Peach - ??
Wario - 60-40
Zelda - 60-40
Meta Knight - 40-60 to 30-70
ZSS - 50-50
Bomberman - ??
Captain Falcon - 65-35
Black Mage - 45-55
Jigglypuff - 65-35
Tails - ??
Yoshi - 50-50
Marth - 35-65
Lloyd - ??
Chibi-Robo - ??
Sora - 45-55
Ichigo - 35-65 to 30-70
Naruto - ??
Goku - ??

Tell me what you think about these numbers.

Mostly because Marth has the worser qualities of those 2 characters, like being both tall and having low KO power when not landing the right attacks.

I don't exactly agree on the Link, Marth, Wario, Meta Knight, and Samus MU's, but everything else is pretty close to my opinion.