Basically what I hear is Yoshi from this.

Obviously Yoshi will come back, most likely in march because of the new yoshi game for 3ds since that seems to be the pattern for most returning fighters.

That makes three. Yoshi converts (to eggs), Kirby absorbs and Pac-Man Comsumes. But they all get the job done in different fashions, even if they share some techniques such as Ground Pounds.

Kyuubit, why Crash Bandicoot? Tad unnecessary?

crash bandicoot has been on nintendo consoles he deserves to be in the game

Lara Croft con4med for smash

I think you're missing something here. Pacman couldn't have a move that eats the opponent end of story as part of his regular moveset. The best he could do is be Wario. We have a Wario already.

Pacman fills no niche AND brings nothing interesting to the table. What makes Pacman a character that a person would play as.

He has plenty of powers... Butt Bounce, Chomping, Power Pellets, Fruit Tossing, Ghosts always trying to attack him might interfere with foes, diving, karts, just about nything.

Maybe Pac-Man's inclusion is not worth discussion, then. We can all be smarmy little [insert grawlixified names here], but I was just trying to see reason behind the argument of what I've heard is Namco's most probable representative. But if we're gonna pull a Kyuubit and/or just say he has nothing to bring to the table, lemme get something straight:

Deciton, "interesting" is a relative adjective. When I saw that Olimar made Smash the first time, all I could think of was "What, is he going to just throw Pikmin at everyone? That sounds lame." What, he made Tier 3? What, his Pikmin all do different things, with varying weights and powers? Oh, ok... You know what sounds lamer? An Ice Climber that does nothing but jump and swings a hammer. Sounds like it bring nothing to the game except for a tiny little--

Oh, what's that? We get to simultaneously control the first and second player forms? They somehow got ICE POWERS? No waaaaay... That brings a lot to the table now. Possibly interesting to play? Possible they were improvised on in relevance to the content of their games and a little creative license? Kinda like Fox, Ness, Lucas, Falco, Wolf, Pit, Captain Falcon, and Rob?

Nah. Can't be.

that's not what "bringing something to the table" means. when people say that, they mean interesting things or things that make him unique.

the characters you listed didn't exactly have anything iconic that they're entirely based around, and if they did they had an easy way of making it into something nice. ice climbers had very little except a hammer, so they added abilities. fox, falco, and wolf are all animals in space, i have no doubt they'd have equipment that allows them to use their attacks. ness and lucas are based around an RPG series, it's not hard to bring things from an RPG series. pit took a fast and annoying playstyle that wasn't entirely based a lot more around control than pikachu. captain falcon is a racer, so he didn't have much going for him but he's a bounty hunter, so things were added. rob's a robot do we even have to discuss

pac-man's main ability is eating which is constantly used (if not over used). what an original idea

there's not much you can even really do with eating. MAYBE FORWARD SPECIAL IS HE EATS WHILE JUMPING FORWARD AND HIS UP IS EATING WHILE JUMPING UPW-- ahaha no. fruit tossing would be just projectile #832. butt bounce is pretty much ground-pound or any midair attack that makes you go downwards. power pellets? okay we've got a final smash we're good to go.

the points you bring up are really under-exaggerating. olimar has a lot of organization and keeping your tiny little servants alive while ice climbers have a lot of desyncing strategies. you are taking two of the most unique characters and taking their worst traits to make them sound horrible.

Insollent fools



you cannot grasp the true power of the Pac:


Nuetral Specials provided by Smashboards proves he has something to offer:
Chomp: Like Toad waaaaaay back when I started this project, Chomp requires Wario to change his standard special (or they could just have to same one) due to a cool little idea I had a while ago (and will hopefully draw at come point.) It works pretty much the same way.

Rev Roll: What is this, Sonic the Hedgehog? This little manoeuvre is just like Yoshi's Egg Roll, or possibly Jigglypuff's Rollout. It involves rolling, is what I'm saying.
Dot Chain: For this move you don't actually control Pac himself, but a chain of dots which he follows. They begin by moving upwards but you can control them - only at right angles - until they run out, seven to ten of them, I'm thinking.

Butt Bounce: What is this, Super Mario? Not unlike the Yoshi Bomb and Bowser Bomb, but Pac-Man actually bounces, allowing the chance to chain them. I know some of these moves are a bit straightforward and/or derivative but I think it makes for a simple, accessible moveset.

Power Pellet: Throwing a glowing orb down his gullet (?) causes Pac-Man to grow to several times his size, lose his limbs and features and go back to that classic cheese/pizza/trivial pursuit shape everybody knows him for. Fully controllable but again only at right angles, Pac has to chase down his opponents in an effort to eat them. Not sure which is more balanced, biting them for big damage (a la Ultimate Chimera) or swallowing them for and instant knock out (a la Balloon Fight Fish) but either way maybe your enemies will turn blue for this technique?

And you say he has no moveset potential

A moves - generic punces and kicks and the like; just like 3/4 of the roster

Notice how three of those moves say "it's like [move already in the game]"

now f*** off

I'm am sorry you brought nothing to the table either. You want to discuss Pac-Man? Please do. What could they do to make him more unique and interesting like they did with those characters you listed? Because keeping a small army alive to fight for you and relying on a partner to do things are both unique enough traits to make them interesting before adding elemental effects, eating (and just that, no ''converting" no "absorbing" as you put it) and throwing things are something I do every day.

Hell, Snake had a game where he ate everything.

I am against Pac-Man as a character, of course I am shooting down the few arguments your managing. So you're right, he isn't worth discussing, there is one reason he 'should be Namco's rep': he's Pac-Man. There is half a dozen reasons he shouldn't be the rep. There is no deeper meaning to the 'reason behind the argument of what I've heard is Namco's most probable representative'. Nothing even says they will have a rep. Its all as speculative as me saying Quote&Curly are likely reps of indie gaming.

PREEDIT: Kuro you magnificent bastard.

Oh yes, and lets look at Snake's Nintendo relevancy as well.

Not every character has to be completely unique. I mean we have two Links. If one character ends up having some moves similar to other characters I don't think anyone will die.
Lets look at Little Mac
His KO Punch is like Ike's Quickdraw.
His recovery is an uppercut where have I seen that before.
He has a Counter just like every FE character and Lucario.
Little Mac confirmed worst character.

Ahem did I say Pac and Namco had no relevance? No.

Did I say Snake was Nintendo relevent in my 'this character also eats statement'? No.

Hey on that subject, Snake's relevance: he was on Brawl. Pac-Man lacks that same argument.