Dude, calm it.

So, now that Sheik's been nerfed, will there be a character that rises to her dominance, or is the game at favourable balance?

nobody will dominate like Sheik but lmaoooooo Ally's being a b**** over it

"*throws jab, get witched time into death*
Learn the MU aka pick up a char that camps n throw kill confirms. S4 is really worse than brawl."

"me : HMM SHOULD I PUNISH HIM NOW?
*drops shield*
Downward kicked into death.

HMMM SHOULD I HOLD SHIELD?
*Bayo starts dtilt camping *
Tf"

"Ima remind everyone every week. Ban Bayo. You had no results until she came out. Salem Pinkfresh etc. Cant learn not to get HIT once ✌."

"This is why bayo is cancer. f*** your learn the MU. You cant learn getting dive kicked in the face or she gets away "


pretty hilarious coming from a guy who mains Mario

I met Ally IRL
He was very confident he could beat ZeRo if he decided to take the game "seriously"

lmaooooo one of those types of people

i thought i disliked Ally for maining Mario alone but wow

I hate it when people do that
I almost punched him in the face for answering that. He could've told any excuses but that one and I'd be ok but since he's one of the few canadian players I have to support him because #CanadaMasterRace
still I'd punch him hard.

It seems the hate on Bay keeps growing though, I went for glory with a good fox player and we played for 2 hours but when I switched for Bayo he killed himself like "Nope, nope, nope, nope and nope". That was hilarous.

HOW THE f*** DO YOU EXPECT ME TO CALM DOWN. The s*** people say here is literally the same s*** people say on FG. Sometimes I want to kill myself when I read people's comments

Am I getting you riled up?

Alright, then prove me wrong. Go to a tournament and show me that you are better than I'm making you out to be. Show me replays, videos, and pictures about your play when you do start going competitively. I assure you, you will improve.

Do not show me for glory videos, do not show me friendlies that you play with, well, your friends. Yelling at me over the internet won't do anything. Grinding hours of practice, on the other hand, will improve you as a player.

Everyone starts out bad. It's not until they go and play competitively (READ: THEY GO TO TOURNAMENTS) that they start to actually improve. For Glory can only do so much, especially when strategies like Wario's bike can get you easy JV3's. For Glory is generally filled with wannabes; they might play "competitively" but all they do is go on For Glory and sit on their couch.

Playing against your friends doesn't always improve you; it just teaches you how to beat your friends, not beat your opponent. Some people don't seem to get this. A friend of mine constantly uses Sheik's dair against me because, as he tells me, it throws me off guard. But then I see him using it in tournament sets and he wonders why he loses almost every single time.

Once you get videos of tournament sets out there, as I said, send them to me. I'll gladly watch through the whole thing multiple times and tell you exactly what you are doing wrong so you can fix it.



I'm not telling you that you're bad so you quit. I'm telling you that because I want you to actually find a local and improve there. It's simply how it is.

Kuro, no offense, but can you shut the hell up and stop telling everyone "U have 2 play tourneys 2 be gud". It's strictly not true even though you're trying really hard to convince yourself. As a rule of thumb you have to be good at something before you can learn to be a master. I mean do you honestly think ANY of the major competitive players weren't good before going to a tournament? Sure they improved from doing it, but that happens from playing the game against other good players. If no one could be "good" before hitting up a tournament, there would be no high level play, tournaments would have been a bunch of people failing at each other being "casuals".

I would like to know what authority you have to tell other people they're bad at a game, and that you can review their videos and tell them all their mistakes. Maybe you should post some of your top level play replays as proof of your credentials.

And most importantly, this goes out to Mikeman: If you can not stand the atmosphere of this topic you should consider not using it. I mean if you're not getting anything but stress it's not really worth it is it? Especially if it doesn't seem like it will improve for you anytime soon. The whole lot of us here are dirty casuals at the game, if we weren't we'd talk about this stuff with fellow competitive mindset players instead of MGers, so it's not like there is any amazing secret tips we can give you so that you'll improve. At the heart of the matter is what everyone has been telling you. Play more, play a lot more. If you are "bad" then "get good", even if the bad in this case is actually great and good is just a few notches better. Like exemplary? I think that's better than great.

It's normal among most smashers, the mindset I mean.

Edit: To add on, playing on For Glory isn't the same as playing against CPU's, which is the worst thing to do when practicing for a competitive scene. Humans adapt and learn, CPU's don't, so you get into habits that will work on CPU's and they start showing in your play againt a human that will adapt to your tendencies.

So. For glory isn't the place to learn either but it's also not terrible. The worst thing about it is you're not learning the stages, platform movement, counterpicking. I found after playing on For Glory for so long that when I went to play on DL or BF I lacked simple movement options that are needed for platform oriented stages. Either way you're learning something, you're not wrong Kuro. Your attitude is what the problem is, you're coming off exactly how you condemned Ally to be, which is really funny.

Kuro honestly is an actual good player, I haven't fought him offline but from the time I did fight him on WiFi he was above average. Most WiFi players are just average and since Smash 4 is nowhere near as hard as many other games WiFi players usually can play decently in tournaments. Kuro isn't entirely right but he has a point.

I know what I'm talking about. The skill cap only goes so high when it comes to online play. Of course people improved as they went on and of course a lot of players are good before tournaments--hell, I'm one of them! But regardless, the best way to improve is to go up against actual players who know what they are doing.

I assure you, I'm not some wannabe Smash player; I've won my fair share of prize money and I've taken out professional players. I double eliminated the #1 player on our PR two weeks ago. I've taken out PR members multiple times. I do not act like I know s***, I do know s***. Over the past half a year, my play has improved dramatically because I actually went and played against people who are going out of their way to get better, not some eight-year-old on For Glory. And would you look at that, over $500 in winnings. Do not act like I do not know what I'm talking about, because I sure as hell have gone through all of it.

For Glory isn't useless, in fact it's very useful, but you're only going to be taken so far with it. You lack stage experience (in both playing on the stages and counterpicking them), you lack properly adapting players, and most importantly, you lack very good players. You have no idea where your skill level is when you play online, regardless of what your win rate is. You get accustomed to lag, and the players cannot directly tell you what you're doing wrong. Just earlier I was practicing with another Bayonetta player in-person and we both found out s*** we were doing good and what we were doing wrong and we were able to directly tell each other what we were doing.

Go on Anther's Ladder if you really can't find a tournament.


How am I anything like Ally? Ally's being a little b**** over a character he can't adapt to. The only thing we have in common is we're both saying something and nobody's f*** listening.



I see you want proof of a set by the way, so: https://www.twitch.tv/polaritygg/v/54677893 2:46:00

Ive said before that I have done Anther's Ladder and apparently thats for glory 2.0. I think I might as well leave this f*** topic because apparently me saying something AT ALL is wrong in every single way possible. WHENEVER I SAY SOMETHING EVERY f*** TIME THERE IS ALWAYS A NEGATIVE ANSWER THAT PEOPLE WILL GIVE OUT IN THIS TOPIC. There are nothing more than people who just act like they are better than everbody else. Why would you guys say that your casuals when you tell me that I am a noob at the game because I don't go to tournaments at all. WHEN I CAN'T GO TO TOURNAMENTS BECAUSE OF PERSONAL LIFE ISSUES NOT HAVING MONEY OR AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE I CAN DO SO. I AM BEING THE f*** HONESTLY PERSON HERE AND THEN THERE IS PEOPLE SAY s*** AND THEN I HAVE TO SAY s*** TO THEM AND THEN I GET IN TROUBLE FOR IT. f*** THIS TOPIC.

hey guys, whats your favorite stage in the Wii U version, mine's Pilotwings

Smashville is the best stage ever.

Tie between Great Cave Offensive, Lylat Cruise and Midgar.