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Brikmaninoff wrote:
Fly or Die wrote:
"no result" tonight.
This implies an investigative role. Who did you visit Night 1 and what was the result?

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I dislike having Lucina as, essentially, a vanilla townie.
Why is that?

= Attempted disassociation from FoD

Nice try Brik.

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Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:08 pm
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Can I disassociate from someone that I was never associated with?

Because if I did I feel like a total boss for breaking the time-space continuum.

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Random numbers: Assuming a suspect pool of 4 players, the chance for each to be Mafia is 50% (assuming 2 Mafias left) or 75%(assuming 3 left).

Assuming 2 Mafias left, the probability that any 2 suspects are both Mafia is 25%.

Assuming 3 Mafias left, the probability that any 2 suspects are both Mafia is 50%.

That being said, it is also likely that at least one of our suspects is a Third-Party. I'm think it could be Brik (perhaps a bit of a non-sequiter, but eh, kind of make sense considering that the probability for being both Mafia isn't that high), and that he and FoD aren't actually partners.


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I'm not third party. : /

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Oh, so Brik is the Doctor?

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Town/Scum whatnot(living players):
Confirmed town:
Myself
DJ Wizard Cop
Lucina

Townish(from least scummy to most scummy):
135
Crabby
BB

Null/Scum(from least scummy to most scummy)
TOWK
Brik
Void
FoD

Subject to change. I'm going to find my TOWK summary.

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Not so much that Void is scum, just that he should have been replaced ages ago.

This topic needs more Detective Crabby.

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FoD post from Day 2 to show everyone how scummy he is:
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Haha. DJ Wiz asks 135 if he was roleblocked. 135 isn't sure. DJ Wiz than asks Deph what Deph was doing at 135's place. Deph immediately assumes that DJ Wiz is accusing him and reacts nervously (which can be interperted as scum). When the preasure mounts (mostly from TOWK), Deph claims in an attempt to save himself.

Yes, this could mean Deph is scum. But I can also see either DJ Wiz or TOWK being mafia. DJ Wiz asks 135 if he was roleblocked, to check 135 isn't sure and to imply a scum roleblocking; next, he asks Deph what Deph was doing at 135's place and Deph immediately assumes it's an accusation due to the previous statement. Deph reacts nervously and, in a one-shot attempt to save himself, claims. We (the town) interpert his bizarre reaction as scumly and lynch him. We find he's town; DJ Wiz/TOWK defend themselves, pointing at Deph's scummy reaction.

Played beautifully.

Of course, Deph could be scum. I'm also don't know of a mafia tracker role, without which there is no way DJ Wiz could know Deph protected 135.

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I'll do a few more after these, probably on Deph and Lucina. Right now's TOWK.
Summary of TOWK(chronologically):
Day 1-Partakes in setup speculation discussion in the beginning of the game, acts as random as always in the RVS. Then suggests a no-lynch, and brings it up later when he realizes people aren't listening. Brings pressure on me, agreeing with BB, after I put pressure on Crabby. Me and him argue over the implications of my vote. Even after justification, he still doesn't trust me and asks for opinions and places pressure on Cactus for going for NL. After Lucina brings up suspicion of him, he gets quite defensive about me. Agrees with DJ Wiz on the Brik case, where Brik said either TOWK or I was mafia. Suddenly changes and says he was seriously nitpicking my posts, and was trying to test for reactions and got nothing. After DJ Wiz's voting of me, he asks the question on why DJ Wiz doesn't want anyone else to wagon. He attacks Deph on ignoring scumminess, and then tries to go for an NL as he doesn't want stuff to end up like the NIxter lynch. Asks 194 to prod Crabby and Cactus. Crabby casts doubt on him, and he repeats the reason for the Nixter lynch. Mentions to DJ Wiz that Brik did vote for me. Defends the attacks on DJ mentioning his self-vote, then votes NL and the day ends.
Day 2(so far)-He said he couldn't think of any reason why Cactus died at the beginning of the day. He votes for Dephius after DJ Wiz's softclaim of watcher. Then casts doubt on Deph's doc claim, saying that he's using a safe-claim. Tells Brik about how I'm so scummy that Cthlutu wouldn't send a PM to me. Assumes that the dream cop sent it then provides reasoning to my question. Infers that I'm third party because I gave an item. Agrees to DJ asking me what in the world I gave 135, being oh so sure I'm third party. Pushes me to claim, and then is surprised that he "forgot" about the role. Then asks Brik why Lucina is maf.

That's it for now. I'm thinking that he didn't put too much pressure on Day 2 as his town play would. Infer what you will.


So far up to mid-Day 2. He didn't actually "steer" the lynch as he said. He put a vote on him early, and then proceeded to never lift it.
Terra wrote:
Town/Scum whatnot(living players):
Confirmed town:
Myself
DJ Wizard Cop
Lucina

Townish(from least scummy to most scummy):
135
BB

Null/Scum(from least scummy to most scummy)
Brik
Void
Crabby
TOWK
FoD

Subject to change. I'm going to find my TOWK summary.


Looks more like this now.

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Yeah, I don't think FoD is town.
Could be mafia, could be 3rd party, but probably not town. Not the way he's playing.

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Well, I was the first vote on him and mentioned his too quick claim. In my eyes that's at least starting the bandwagon. Also, I'm curious as to why 135 is "very likely" town and not "conf. Town". Is there something I'm missing here?

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Vote count please. I'll have more time to go over things later tonight.

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I guess I have to claim.

I am Sanae Kochiya, from MG Mafia 7. Every night, I pick two people. I am told if these people are the same alignment. N1 I picked Terra and Believeblood. They were different alignments. Unfortunately, Believeblood happens to be one of my accusers, so my role has less credibility (Terra is essentially comfirmed).

That's why I disliked roleblock on N2. My investigative powers rely on a combination of the result and my own reads (except in this case). The more time I have to get something definite about an unsuspected player, the more scum I can find.


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Vote Count

Voting Fly or Die: TheOneWhoKnocks, DJ Wizard Cop, Lucina

Not Voting: Void, Crabby, 135, Believeblood, Terra, Brikmaninoff, Fly or Die

Deadline: Nov 10th, 18:00 hrs (ths post's hour)
With 10 players alive, 6 votes are required to lynch.
If deadline is reached and there's no consensus, no lynch will happen.

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Honestly guys, I expected this to be a bit harder to figure out this time. Pachino is a third party. Probably serial killer. He "analyzes" the situation, and immediately afterwards, suggests that the town follow the course of action most likely to put us in a bad spot. His bandwagon attempt fails, so he aligns his opinion with the majority in order not to stand out as someone pushing for a lynch when everybody else realizes that lynching on a day start is dumb.

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Fly or Die wrote:
I guess I have to claim.

I am Sanae Kochiya, from MG Mafia 7. Every night, I pick two people. I am told if these people are the same alignment. N1 I picked Terra and Believeblood. They were different alignments. Unfortunately, Believeblood happens to be one of my accusers, so my role has less credibility (Terra is essentially comfirmed).

That's why I disliked roleblock on N2. My investigative powers rely on a combination of the result and my own reads (except in this case). The more time I have to get something definite about an unsuspected player, the more scum I can find.

Well I know this is essentially BS because I know I'm innocent. It's a nice claim though, I can see how anyone not in my position would buy that and your role does explain the way you've been acting up until now.
So you are either...
A mafia/third party making a really good claim.
Or
A Sanae Kochiya role who was intercepted by a framer(meaning the mafia framed terra/me.)


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