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Overwhelming demand huh?

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Yes, a good portion of the community asked for Luffy, however I've only seen you ask for Daisy, and that my nowhere-near-friend, is not even close to overwhelming demand(and before you bring up that poll, any fanboy could have voted for Daisy multiple times).

Wasn't the Gameboy/GameCube era also the end of prominent sprites in games as well? I could be wrong but we dived completely into 3 dimensional games after this era(with the exception of a few low budget games and ports to other systems).

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0_ZeroSuitUser_0 wrote:
-Sammy [Advance Wars]
-Ike
-Some new Fire Emblem character (probably Lyn)

Sami is a very weird way of saying Andy. :)

Personally i'm hoping there's not going to be more than 2 FE characters in the final game. Just want Lyn to be added so we can call it a day with FE representation in SSF2 with Marth and Lyn representing the series.

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SMX wrote:
0_ZeroSuitUser_0 wrote:
-Sammy [Advance Wars]
-Ike
-Some new Fire Emblem character (probably Lyn)

Sami is a very weird way of saying Andy. :)

Personally i'm hoping there's not going to be more than 2 FE characters in the final game. Just want Lyn to be added so we can call it a day with FE representation in SSF2 with Marth and Lyn representing the series.

Nah. Sammy. She's way more interesting (IMO) and the devs. would probably do it as a shout out to Project M.

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0_ZeroSuitUser_0 wrote:
SMX wrote:
0_ZeroSuitUser_0 wrote:
-Sammy [Advance Wars]
-Ike
-Some new Fire Emblem character (probably Lyn)

Sami is a very weird way of saying Andy. :)

Personally i'm hoping there's not going to be more than 2 FE characters in the final game. Just want Lyn to be added so we can call it a day with FE representation in SSF2 with Marth and Lyn representing the series.

Nah. Sammy. She's way more interesting (IMO) and the devs. would probably do it as a shout out to Project M.

Thing is though there's a lot more that can be done with an Andy moveset over a Sami one. Andy is the "jack of all trades" so to speak so it would make sense for his moveset to cover all ground from AW whereas Sami is an Infantry specialist who's not good at direct combat hence why it would be odd for her to be using tanks in her moveset. Sami's moveset would most likely focus on Infantry/Mechs hence why she would be limited. With Andy he can use pretty much any vehicular unit to use in his moveset in addition to fighting with his wrench and potentially having healing capabilities (touched on this in my article I posted some pages back).

That on top of the fact that Andy is way more important than Sami in the AW series evident by the fact that he's the only CO you can choose in the last mission of AW1 and that he's the epicentre of the AW2 climax. He's pretty much to the Wars series what Marth is to Fire Emblem. Don't know why people make it sound Sami is so important when she's no more important than say Max who had a larger role than her in Dual Strike. You can bring up Andy not being in Dual Strike as a reason to justify Sami but her role was so minimal in that game that the argument is mute. All Sami has going for her is that she's a female and "muh female representation" which I hate because the idea of adding characters based on their gender only really bothers me.

Not discouraging people from wanting Sami of course because any AW representation is Smash Bros/Smash Flash is a good thing but it makes a lot more sense to put Andy in the game given his broader moveset potential and him being the mascot of the AW/Wars series.

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Well, obviously the Project M dev team saw something in her, because she was in progress before its demise.

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Harr Turnpike wrote:
Well, obviously the Project M dev team saw something in her, because she was in progress before its demise.

(By the way, trying to make someone's argument sound stupid by just saying it in a silly voice, such as "muh (x)", is probably the second-fastest way to get on my bad side.)

Nah dude that was more of a general thing people bring up VS an insult to the guy personally. It really bothers me when people insist X female character should be in because of their gender.

As for my post I was taking exception to the fact that he said Sami would be more interesting than Andy which IMO is anything but true as I explained in my post. And IIRC Sami was in PM as a semi-cloned Snake so maybe they thought she would take less time to develop than Andy who would need more dev time for his vehicular units. It's unfortunate really because I was really looking forward to AW being represented in PM even if it wasn't my favorite character.

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SMX wrote:
0_ZeroSuitUser_0 wrote:
SMX wrote:
0_ZeroSuitUser_0 wrote:
-Sammy [Advance Wars]
-Ike
-Some new Fire Emblem character (probably Lyn)

Sami is a very weird way of saying Andy. :)

Personally i'm hoping there's not going to be more than 2 FE characters in the final game. Just want Lyn to be added so we can call it a day with FE representation in SSF2 with Marth and Lyn representing the series.

Nah. Sammy. She's way more interesting (IMO) and the devs. would probably do it as a shout out to Project M.

Thing is though there's a lot more that can be done with an Andy moveset over a Sami one. Andy is the "jack of all trades" so to speak so it would make sense for his moveset to cover all ground from AW whereas Sami is an Infantry specialist who's not good at direct combat hence why it would be odd for her to be using tanks in her moveset. Sami's moveset would most likely focus on Infantry/Mechs hence why she would be limited. With Andy he can use pretty much any vehicular unit to use in his moveset in addition to fighting with his wrench and potentially having healing capabilities (touched on this in my article I posted some pages back).

That on top of the fact that Andy is way more important than Sami in the AW series evident by the fact that he's the only CO you can choose in the last mission of AW1 and that he's the epicentre of the AW2 climax. He's pretty much to the Wars series what Marth is to Fire Emblem. Don't know why people make it sound Sami is so important when she's no more important than say Max who had a larger role than her in Dual Strike. You can bring up Andy not being in Dual Strike as a reason to justify Sami but her role was so minimal in that game that the argument is mute. All Sami has going for her is that she's a female and "muh female representation" which I hate because the idea of adding characters based on their gender only really bothers me.

Not discouraging people from wanting Sami of course because any AW representation is Smash Bros/Smash Flash is a good thing but it makes a lot more sense to put Andy in the game given his broader moveset potential and him being the mascot of the AW/Wars series.

I don't actually care about Advance Wars. I was just going based on what I've seen (I've seen dozens of request for both Sami and Andy). Plus Sami honestly sounds way more interesting, and based on the leaked dev build of her she actually has a decent bit of potential.

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0_ZeroSuitUser_0 wrote:
SMX wrote:
0_ZeroSuitUser_0 wrote:
SMX wrote:
0_ZeroSuitUser_0 wrote:
-Sammy [Advance Wars]
-Ike
-Some new Fire Emblem character (probably Lyn)

Sami is a very weird way of saying Andy. :)

Personally i'm hoping there's not going to be more than 2 FE characters in the final game. Just want Lyn to be added so we can call it a day with FE representation in SSF2 with Marth and Lyn representing the series.

Nah. Sammy. She's way more interesting (IMO) and the devs. would probably do it as a shout out to Project M.

Thing is though there's a lot more that can be done with an Andy moveset over a Sami one. Andy is the "jack of all trades" so to speak so it would make sense for his moveset to cover all ground from AW whereas Sami is an Infantry specialist who's not good at direct combat hence why it would be odd for her to be using tanks in her moveset. Sami's moveset would most likely focus on Infantry/Mechs hence why she would be limited. With Andy he can use pretty much any vehicular unit to use in his moveset in addition to fighting with his wrench and potentially having healing capabilities (touched on this in my article I posted some pages back).

That on top of the fact that Andy is way more important than Sami in the AW series evident by the fact that he's the only CO you can choose in the last mission of AW1 and that he's the epicentre of the AW2 climax. He's pretty much to the Wars series what Marth is to Fire Emblem. Don't know why people make it sound Sami is so important when she's no more important than say Max who had a larger role than her in Dual Strike. You can bring up Andy not being in Dual Strike as a reason to justify Sami but her role was so minimal in that game that the argument is mute. All Sami has going for her is that she's a female and "muh female representation" which I hate because the idea of adding characters based on their gender only really bothers me.

Not discouraging people from wanting Sami of course because any AW representation is Smash Bros/Smash Flash is a good thing but it makes a lot more sense to put Andy in the game given his broader moveset potential and him being the mascot of the AW/Wars series.

I don't actually care about Advance Wars. I was just going based on what I've seen (I've seen dozens of request for both Sami and Andy). Plus Sami honestly sounds way more interesting, and based on the leaked dev build of her she actually has a decent bit of potential.

May I ask how she sounds "way more interesting"? She was a semi-clone of Snake in the PM build.

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I'm pretty sure she was heavily underdeveloped in the build we saw, we know for a fact that characters are given placeholder animations and moves, when Chibi-Robo was announced his ledge grab was Samus, this could possibly be done during different parts of development on any game in general. We wouldn't know wether she was a clone or not because she was never finished.

With all that said, I'd personally prefer Sami over Andy, the Devs came up with Luffy, BD, and CR movesets, plus Sami can always take from other elements in the series, the devs can do alot and I would love to see what they'd do with her.

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I'm pretty sure she was heavily underdeveloped in the build we saw, we know for a fact that characters are given placeholder animations and moves, when Chibi-Robo was announced his ledge grab was Samus, this could possibly be done during different parts of development on any game in general. We wouldn't know wether she was a clone or not because she was never finished.

With all that said, I'd personally prefer Sami over Andy, the Devs came up with Luffy, BD, and CR movesets, plus Sami can always take from other elements in the series, the devs can do alot and I would love to see what they'd do with her.

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What's keeping them from putting a character from Survival Horror (Leon S. Kennedy) into Super Smash Flash 2?
Certainly they can't make a game as diverse as this is without at least ONE Survival Horror video game character, right?
Here's to hoping Leon S. Kennedy becomes the Survival Horror Representative that this game should have.

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I feel SSF2 is going to only focus on characters that debuted during the Gamecube/Gameboy Advance era.


Finally someone else said it. :luigi:

I was going to object at first, but...

:isaac: , :chibirobo: , :lloyd: , :sora: , Sandbag... Even all of the anime characters are from this era now that I think about it.

I guess it's a consequence of exactly who's making the game. That's the era the devs and most of the fans grew up with.

Olimar, Andy/Sami, Lyn, and Shadow are looking pretty likely right now.

Keep in mind again, this is just referring to Nintendo characters that had not had character representation before.

I don't think anime characters apply to that rule.

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I'm pretty sure she was heavily underdeveloped in the build we saw, we know for a fact that characters are given placeholder animations and moves, when Chibi-Robo was announced his ledge grab was Samus, this could possibly be done during different parts of development on any game in general. We wouldn't know wether she was a clone or not because she was never finished.

With all that said, I'd personally prefer Sami over Andy, the Devs came up with Luffy, BD, and CR movesets, plus Sami can always take from other elements in the series, the devs can do alot and I would love to see what they'd do with her.

All her moves were derived from Snake though. I find it really hard to believe that Sami was going to be anything other than a Snake semi-clone in PM. Maybe she would be differentiated on the level Wolf is to Fox or Luigi is to Mario but at the end of the day I don't see her not being a Snake semi-clone.

I prefer Andy over Sami greatly mostly because the former holds more relevance than the later does in regards to representing his series and that I personally like him more in terms of what he brings to the game and me personally liking him better in Advance Wars. As I mentioned before Andy is to Wars what Marth is to Fire Emblem. That and it makes sense to have him in with his status in Advance Wars as "the jack of all trades" given he has no strengths and no weaknesses meaning he can use any kind of unit in his moveset be it Foot soldiers (Infantry, Mechs), Direct combat units (Tanks, Recons, Anti-Airs), or Indirect combat units (Artillery, Rockets). Sami could use Tanks yes but if they were staying true to the AW series her tank would have to be relatively underpowered given that's her weak point as a CO in Advance Wars. Andy doesn't encounter that problem.

Then again if there was an Advance Wars character in SSF2 I would have to assume that said character is already far in development and that the devs can't change their mind now. If it happens to be Sami i'll be a bit disappointed that it's not Andy but happy nonetheless to see Advance Wars getting some recognition in SSF2. Here's hoping it's Andy though.

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