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Genis
Joined: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:38 pm Posts: 940 Location: The Darkest Timeline
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It's rewarding you with an OHKO if you somehow get all three of the pieces in the chaos of the battle that ensues AND somehow aim it properly to hit someone else in the length of a couple seconds. The Dragoon isn't OP just because it's a OHKO; there are some setbacks to it, not to mention that although it's rare, it can be dodged. Other risks include not being able to get all the pieces, being able to aim properly and predict your opponent's movements beforehand, and being disabled from getting any items or attacks in save for a Dragoon hit in the time that you have it. Sure, it's not a good item, but it's fair imo.
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Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:01 pm |
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Tid
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again i wasn't really complaining about it being OP it isn't
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Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:11 pm |
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Genis
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I was addressing Kuro but ok.
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Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:54 pm |
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Thundaga_T2
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There's also the possibility of opponents knocking the piece(s) out of you and taking them for themselves.
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Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:55 pm |
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Pach
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imo the item's not op, but when it appears the whole match basically become a competition to see who can collect all the pieces first
I usually just turn the item off when I play
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Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:46 pm |
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Kurodyne
Joined: Sat May 16, 2009 1:44 pm Posts: 6555 Location: Florida Country:
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being able to miss an item that's a free shot in the first place isn't a risk a risk would be something like dealing more damage while taking more damage or a character who can combo good but has to be precise
not to mention that it's incredibly broken during 1v1s. if i'm playing 4 stock against someone and they're carrying a piece, KOing them immediately lets me net that piece and get another KO and bring it down to 4-2. that's a load of s***.
the dragoon should be nerfed slightly to not be a guaranteed KO. or at least make it slightly easier to dodge. not much easier, but maybe not a 2-frame startup. if a character had a moveset full of 2-frame startups everyone would be pissed off
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Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:03 pm |
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natedoesthings
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This is just me looking to much into things, but to make Lucina's neutral special the same as marth's would make no sense. People have been saying that the picture of her attack in windy hill on her website profile is her neutral B when it's not, it's her Side B, I really hope that she has marth's melee side B attack due to her blade strength being balanced than through the tip.
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Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:19 pm |
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Kurodyne
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how are you certain that's her side-B? that looks a LOT like marth's neutral
plus it would make perfectly fine sense considering the origin of marth's neutral B
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Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:36 pm |
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superkid
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 Same.
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Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:00 pm |
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Genis
Joined: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:38 pm Posts: 940 Location: The Darkest Timeline
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Well, there's a problem. Of course it's "broken" if you consider it in a 1v1 situation. Yet, if it's a 4 player free for all, Dragoon's not only harder to obtain, it's harder to aim. You have 3 different targets, and aiming for one isn't as easy while the other two are attacking them as well.
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Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:26 pm |
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Geno
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Fans are OP in 1v1 horrible game design plz nerf
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Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:36 pm |
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Kurodyne
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it's still just as broken, it's just moreso in 1v1 slightly less broken in free for alls, but it's still very powrful especially on a small stage like halberd
however, i'll admit that yeah it's not broken and i've been looking at this with a 1v1 mindset
it still needs to be nerfed slightly
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Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:51 pm |
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natedoesthings
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The blue aura around her sword shows that it's a part of Sword Dance. It WOULDN'T fit perfectly because her strength is through the full blade, not the tip like Marth.
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Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:12 pm |
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Kurodyne
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oh, the aura makes sense. but it still makes sense that she has the move not only are her moves mainly thrusts in the actual game iirc, but shield breaker is based on the fact that rapiers do more damage to armored units. and guess what rapiers are exclusive to?
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Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:14 pm |
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Geno
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Let's talk about something that isn't retarded.
Who is buying the 3DS version? Comes out relatively soon. I hear about some people that are waiting until the full version, they're high IMO.
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Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:16 pm |
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