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YoichiHiruma wrote:
Saikyoshi wrote:
YoichiHiruma wrote:
I love the Flash Stepping.
I can't really tell if it's cosmetic or functional on some moves, but some I can definitely see that it provides bonus range such as his F-air and D-Smash.
Are there some moves where it's only cosmetic?

His up-throw.

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His standard special attack is too slow, you can hit Cucco many times with it :/

You're using it wrong. It's not a spammable projectile anymore. It's a defensive field and a combo starter.


So is it like Mac's Jolt Haymaker where attacks will go through him while Flash Stepping?

I'm not sure. It's just a fancy animation - throws don't usually pay much attention to hitboxes.

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Saikyoshi wrote:
YoichiHiruma wrote:
Saikyoshi wrote:
YoichiHiruma wrote:
I love the Flash Stepping.
I can't really tell if it's cosmetic or functional on some moves, but some I can definitely see that it provides bonus range such as his F-air and D-Smash.
Are there some moves where it's only cosmetic?

His up-throw.

CreepyBuildPl wrote:
His standard special attack is too slow, you can hit Cucco many times with it :/

You're using it wrong. It's not a spammable projectile anymore. It's a defensive field and a combo starter.


So is it like Mac's Jolt Haymaker where attacks will go through him while Flash Stepping?

I'm not sure. It's just a fancy animation - throws don't usually pay much attention to hitboxes.


I mean for the rest of the Flash Stepping Moves like his F-Air and Double Jump and what not.


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Hello people! I'm new to the forum and stuff. But here we go!
So here are a few a questions: Ichigo seems to have become a Glass Cannon. Also a question about the Flash Step. Is the movement instant? It seems like a few times I've been hit in the middle of the 2 destinations.

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Figured out a way to pseudo-wavedash with Ichigo.
Use Ichigo's forward air while right above the ground. The move will cancel itself upon landing but the flash-step momentum will remain.
It's similar to Black Mage's fair in that regard.


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mkolpnji wrote:
Figured out a way to pseudo-wavedash with Ichigo.
Use Ichigo's forward air while right above the ground. The move will cancel itself upon landing but the flash-step momentum will remain.

You can actually get more distance out of it by doing it even closer to the ground.

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Ichigo is OP (not really), his F-air gives momentum and is really useful to recover if you angle it upwards, now, if you angle it downwards close to an edge, he'll grab the ledge automatically, really useful for edgeguarding. You can have more momentum if you use down-tilt right after the pseudo-wavedash, you can also use it to travel plataforms faster and continue combos. In WarioWare, if you use down-smash below a platform, Ichigo will go up and do it over the platform, you can use that for mindgames.


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Royal-X wrote:
Xyless wrote:
mkolpnji wrote:
Figured out a way to pseudo-wavedash with Ichigo.
Use Ichigo's forward air while right above the ground. The move will cancel itself upon landing but the flash-step momentum will remain.
It's similar to Black Mage's fair in that regard.


Using this I found the perfect way to self destruct
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LOL, I wonder if you can use that to edgeguard someone, it would be the trolliest of moves.


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RaulBM wrote:
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Xyless wrote:
mkolpnji wrote:
Figured out a way to pseudo-wavedash with Ichigo.
Use Ichigo's forward air while right above the ground. The move will cancel itself upon landing but the flash-step momentum will remain.
It's similar to Black Mage's fair in that regard.


Using this I found the perfect way to self destruct
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LOL, I wonder if you can use that to edgeguard someone, it would be the trolliest of moves.


You can, but it only works on people at higher percentages with terribad recoveries


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Xyless wrote:
mkolpnji wrote:
Figured out a way to pseudo-wavedash with Ichigo.
Use Ichigo's forward air while right above the ground. The move will cancel itself upon landing but the flash-step momentum will remain.
It's similar to Black Mage's fair in that regard.


Using this I found the perfect way to self destruct
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lol. The CPU did that once, just without the wavedash.

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Love what they've done with Ichigo now. It always seemed like they changed him every update just a little. He never felt like a really unique character until now.

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Love what they've done with Ichigo now. It always seemed like they changed him every update just a little. He never felt like a really unique character until now.

Thanks, really glad you're enjoying the new take on the character. Taken a long time to figure out what to do with him but he finally got there!

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Royal-X wrote:
Xyless wrote:
mkolpnji wrote:
Figured out a way to pseudo-wavedash with Ichigo.
Use Ichigo's forward air while right above the ground. The move will cancel itself upon landing but the flash-step momentum will remain.
It's similar to Black Mage's fair in that regard.


Using this I found the perfect way to self destruct
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That hilarious, made my day :)


So I think I've figured out how Ichigo works.....I think.

Pros:
Generally fast movement for a heavyweight (including high jumps).
Projectile helps with rushing in on opponents.
Can actually wavedash forward with fair momentum.
Excellent at juggling (upb combo's into utilt).
Unpredictability that rivals even Sonic..
^ Best used for mindgames (lotsa potential). ^
Powerful Attacks.
Ken Combo's more than Marth.
Decent throwing game (his grab range is awesome).
Range that's comparable to Brawl's Ike (probably even better).
^Can space out just about anyone, his dash attack is undoubtedly the longest in the game in terms of range. ^

Cons:
Generally slow attacks.
Slow air speed.
Recovery stinks.
I feel downb needs more hitstun if it connects, also feel it needs more power behind it.
^ Can someone explains how this move works in-depth? ^
Most throws are easily DI'ed easily.
Still a rather big target.
Combo'ed, juggled, and chaingrabbed easily.
Has trouble dealing with pressure up close.

Other:
Meteor Smashes have great range, but lack power.
While Ichigo can be camped, he can get passed it with a few dash attacks and air dodges.

I have trouble finding a place on the tier list where Ichigo would seem fit, he has a lot of potential I have yet to unveil.
Overall, Ichigo acts like a glass cannon.
He feels just right don't change him, great job McLeodGaming!

Oh yeah, that dthrow can be tech'ed :colonthree:

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zackniv123 wrote:
Love what they've done with Ichigo now. It always seemed like they changed him every update just a little. He never felt like a really unique character until now.



True dat.

In the past, it was pretty much obvious that they tried to mix Marth (still has his utilt) and Ike (sideb) together to create him.

He's awesome now.

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iirc ichigo can spam getsuga tenshous a lot so hes op especially in sudden death matches hes like a machine gun

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