No, what we're doing is the smart decision. What you are proposing is the suicide one.

So are we gonna go the rest of the day without lyching again?

No, I think that would be a mistake. The reason we couldn't safely lynch yesterday was because we had almost nothing to go on. Now, we have preliminary role list. That will help us tremendously. For instance, we know that there isn't a fool, so we won't have to worry about anyone acting suspicious on purpose to get themselves lynched, thus leading the town in the wrong direction.

In addition, we now have another night's worth of investigation to help us. We also know that there isn't a serial killer, so we only have to worry about one anti-town death every night. (Provided our vigilante, if we do have one, doesn't accidently kill a townie.)

We do have to be cautious, however, in how we cast our votes. We might have a hated townie among us.

The non-dead Investigative Role should reveal themselves so that the protective role (who should remain anonymous) can protect him as he gathers data.

Okay. I agree with Tid, and I'm assuming the protective role is the bodyguard. Also, at some point in the game, the bullet proof should claim, because then even though the mafia know who the bullet proof is, they can't kill him, and we know who it is, so we don't lynch them.

And on the note of who is mafia, I have reason to suspect Believeblood is mafia, because he was waaaay to eager to lynch someone, and he was completely against not lynching, which was the smart thing to do. If we had lynched someone, and if Believeblood is mafia, he would have tried to lynch a non-mafia, making one less townie. Now, tonight, we lost our watcher, and we have one less investigating type of role.

Those of you who say that I was against no lynching while Believeblood was, it's true. But there is one difference between him and me. I, after seeing reasoning and pros of no lynching, changed to wanting a no lynch. However, Believeblood was persistent, which is the difference.

Remember, there's still the possibility that the BP was hit N1, so they should not claim unless they still have both hits.

I kind of agree with this statement. I find Believeblood's attitude detrimental to the team.

It was the tracker the one you lost, though.

Looking through Blitz's posts, do we have any evidence for his demise? Now I'm not sure about you, but I can't see anything throughout his posts that would put him on anyone's list of 'people to kill' (which I'm guessing is why he was killed in the first place).

And errr.... Tid? The protective role may be the Careful Doctor, Jailkeeper, Bodyguard or Bus Driver, each one rendering your plan obsolete in their own way. Also, should they be a Cop, they won't be useful until later when their investigations can be checked and they know what kind of cop they are. Likewise, the investigative role could be the Lie Detector who, by revealing himself, loses his ability. If Kyuubit is really the investigator, we can safely say that he's not the Lie Detector, but other outcomes can still render the plan futile. If he's not an investigator, then he's quite possibly a protector pretending to be protected and we can't guarantee his guilt. Then again, we can't guarantee his innocence either YET, so it'll be interesting to watch.

In addition to this, Max said the Mafia have a Hooker (the only type of Mafia roleblocker). If the Hooker roleblocks the investigator then they become obsolete and the plan's wasted. Under these circumstances, no one on our side can gather information while in the meantime, the Mafia will spend their time slowly whittling away at our side. The fact that there were no kills two nights ago and only one last night makes me think . The Mafia would probably have the advantage in this scenario due to the fact that they can be certain of who's on their side and the killer on our side may only be a hunter or paranoid gun owner. Should the shooting role be a hunter, here's a message. Don't have revenge, take down who you think is the mafia, you can still be on the winning side.

Whoever steps forward as the investigator can not be proven to be the investigator until tomorrow. Even then, if they're found to be lying, they still can't be proven to be the Mafia as whoever's been given a protective role would be a prime candidate to step forward, having everyone think they're defended, safe from the Mafia, while they go around defending others.

On a completely unrelated note....
I read the outline for the Godfather, it says they appear to be innocent. Does that mean that Blitz could have been the Godfather and we still have two investigators left? Or is the definition of "innocent" only shown to investigators? It's pretty hard to plan around a role list when we don't even know the number of mafia members left.

Likewise, the Galis seems an interesting role. There's a 50% chance there is one which means that any stray accusation may very well fall upon one. This would mean that anyone who throws out a random accusation and sticks to it is quite probably a Mafia member trying to whittle away townie numbers. This can not include WP as he was previously unaware of the existence of a Gallis. The other uninformed roles are the Miller, Grave Digger and Townie. The Miller particularly amuses me because, upon their death, they appear to be a 'scum', even though 'scum' don't exist. This oversight makes me personally think that there is no Miller or otherwise Max probably would have noticed this typo. The absence of a Miller raises the likelihood of there being a Gallis to 66.6[repeater]%.

Another thing that I think that you can be fairly sure of is the existence of a Mortician or Undertaker. Max's strong preference for a no role-reveal game makes me think that there's someone who really needs no roles revealed for their role to work and those two are the only ones I can see.

tl;dr: no conclusions

I hate to whine again, but it's stuff like this that makes an ACTUAL role list really important.

I'm going to say that scum=mafioso.

Just sayin', if it bothers anyone I can change it to specifically say mafioso or mafia.

Oh and the godfather thing, it means that to investigative roles, the godfather appears as innocent. When dead he will appear as the godfather.

Also there is no bus driver (I didn't actually see him as a protective role actually, I guess it fits though) and there is no alterations to the roles (If doc, its normal doc, if cop, its normal cop).

Sort of, but we can still work our way towards conclusions much more easily.

I still vote for a role list though.