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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-10859264

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Researchers in the US have found new evidence that genetically modified crop plants can survive and thrive in the wild, possibly for decades.


Not really surprising. They are likely to be in a niche, since animals define the niche. It doesn't seem like a very smart idea to unleash new traits into the ecology to me, though.

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Villerar wrote:
It doesn't seem like a very smart idea to unless new traits into the ecology to me, though.

I don't quite understand that sentence.

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Me neither. It was the combination of a typo and missing a letter. It should work now.

The point is that although new traits may be advantageous in the current context, they may lack information elsewhere that modern natural species possess. If the new traits purge the old ones and and old threat resurfaces, the results could be pretty dire.

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Thaiberium wrote:
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It doesn't seem like a very smart idea to unless new traits into the ecology to me, though.

I don't quite understand that sentence.

Plants with modifications would probably end up overrunning their more natural counterparts.

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I've read that GM crops when eaten have been found to mutate, make sick, and kill rats in tests, as well as spread allergens among people in one case. I agree that they could also be dangerous to the environment in which they're grown.

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SwordofAquarius wrote:
I've read that GM crops when eaten have been found to mutate, make sick, and kill rats in tests, as well as spread allergens among people in one case. I agree that they could also be dangerous to the environment in which they're grown.

... Uhmmm
Do you understand how biology works
GM means "genetically motified-" unless there's a specific gene that makes people sick that everyone seems to keep using, then you're basically just eating any other plant

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Kittenpuncher wrote:
SwordofAquarius wrote:
I've read that GM crops when eaten have been found to mutate, make sick, and kill rats in tests, as well as spread allergens among people in one case. I agree that they could also be dangerous to the environment in which they're grown.

... Uhmmm
Do you understand how biology works
GM means "genetically motified-" unless there's a specific gene that makes people sick that everyone seems to keep using, then you're basically just eating any other plant

Yes. I've researched about this stuff before and those are some of the negative results found by different scientists. It has something to do with the way the genetics of the plant change and the way they break down when digested. I can't remember everything because I did a lot of research for an essay for grade eleven academic english over half a year ago and found that some scientists came to the conclusion that GM crops are not safe and have to be tested further. The massive company that makes most of them called Monsanto, as well as the FDA tried to cover that up and started mass producing GM foods anyway. I can't remember for sure but after one GM crop was widely eaten in Europe, breakouts of allergic reactions to that plant occured and GM crops are now banned in many parts of Europe.

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SwordofAquarius wrote:
Kittenpuncher wrote:
SwordofAquarius wrote:
I've read that GM crops when eaten have been found to mutate, make sick, and kill rats in tests, as well as spread allergens among people in one case. I agree that they could also be dangerous to the environment in which they're grown.

... Uhmmm
Do you understand how biology works
GM means "genetically motified-" unless there's a specific gene that makes people sick that everyone seems to keep using, then you're basically just eating any other plant

Yes. I've researched about this stuff before and those are some of the negative results found by different scientists. It has something to do with the way the genetics of the plant change and the way they break down when digested. I can't remember everything because I did a lot of research for an essay for grade eleven academic english over half a year ago and found that some scientists came to the conclusion that GM crops are not safe and have to be tested further. The massive company that makes most of them called Monsanto, as well as the FDA tried to cover that up and started mass producing GM foods anyway. I can't remember for sure but after one GM crop was widely eaten in Europe, breakouts of allergic reactions to that plant occured and GM crops are now banned in many parts of Europe.

what what WHAT
i tell you about genes and you go off on some FDA conspiracy rant (the FDA has no f*** secret agents btw)

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Kittenpuncher wrote:
SwordofAquarius wrote:
Kittenpuncher wrote:
SwordofAquarius wrote:
I've read that GM crops when eaten have been found to mutate, make sick, and kill rats in tests, as well as spread allergens among people in one case. I agree that they could also be dangerous to the environment in which they're grown.

... Uhmmm
Do you understand how biology works
GM means "genetically motified-" unless there's a specific gene that makes people sick that everyone seems to keep using, then you're basically just eating any other plant

Yes. I've researched about this stuff before and those are some of the negative results found by different scientists. It has something to do with the way the genetics of the plant change and the way they break down when digested. I can't remember everything because I did a lot of research for an essay for grade eleven academic english over half a year ago and found that some scientists came to the conclusion that GM crops are not safe and have to be tested further. The massive company that makes most of them called Monsanto, as well as the FDA tried to cover that up and started mass producing GM foods anyway. I can't remember for sure but after one GM crop was widely eaten in Europe, breakouts of allergic reactions to that plant occured and GM crops are now banned in many parts of Europe.

what what WHAT
i tell you about genes and you go off on some FDA conspiracy rant (the FDA has no f#%$& secret agents btw)
:huh: I never said anything about the FDA having secret agents lol...sounds like you're the one on a rant.

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Food is seriously underregulated in the US. It is also seriously underregulated in the EU I admit, but it is way worse in the US.

I'm for not allowing GM crops to be grown unless proven they do not pose an increased risk. Decreased use of GM foods would also benefit farmers in poorer sections of the world.

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Villerar wrote:
Food is seriously underregulated in the US. It is also seriously underregulated in the EU I admit, but it is way worse in the US.

I'm for not allowing GM crops to be grown unless proven they do not pose an increased risk. Decreased use of GM foods would also benefit farmers in poorer sections of the world.

I agree.

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Villerar wrote:
Food is seriously underregulated in the US. It is also seriously underregulated in the EU I admit, but it is way worse in the US.

I'm for not allowing GM crops to be grown unless proven they do not pose an increased risk. Decreased use of GM foods would also benefit farmers in poorer sections of the world.
Genetically modified crops aren't anything new, though. Heck, if you've eaten corn in the last 13 years, it was probably genetically modified, especially if it came out of America.

Granted, modifying it so that it would produce a toxin was probably an idiotic idea.

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Kittenpuncher wrote:
SwordofAquarius wrote:
Kittenpuncher wrote:
SwordofAquarius wrote:
I've read that GM crops when eaten have been found to mutate, make sick, and kill rats in tests, as well as spread allergens among people in one case. I agree that they could also be dangerous to the environment in which they're grown.

... Uhmmm
Do you understand how biology works
GM means "genetically motified-" unless there's a specific gene that makes people sick that everyone seems to keep using, then you're basically just eating any other plant

Yes. I've researched about this stuff before and those are some of the negative results found by different scientists. It has something to do with the way the genetics of the plant change and the way they break down when digested. I can't remember everything because I did a lot of research for an essay for grade eleven academic english over half a year ago and found that some scientists came to the conclusion that GM crops are not safe and have to be tested further. The massive company that makes most of them called Monsanto, as well as the FDA tried to cover that up and started mass producing GM foods anyway. I can't remember for sure but after one GM crop was widely eaten in Europe, breakouts of allergic reactions to that plant occured and GM crops are now banned in many parts of Europe.

what what WHAT
i tell you about genes and you go off on some FDA conspiracy rant (the FDA has no f*** secret agents btw)

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I SMELL A NEW BOOK!

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Hakker wrote:
Villerar wrote:
Food is seriously underregulated in the US. It is also seriously underregulated in the EU I admit, but it is way worse in the US.

I'm for not allowing GM crops to be grown unless proven they do not pose an increased risk. Decreased use of GM foods would also benefit farmers in poorer sections of the world.
Genetically modified crops aren't anything new, though. Heck, if you've eaten corn in the last 13 years, it was probably genetically modified, especially if it came out of America.

Granted, modifying it so that it would produce a toxin was probably an idiotic idea.

I know they aren't anything new. :P Nevertheless, I find the at times imprudent use disturbing enough for tough regulations.

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