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So, are we okay with me putting him at L-1?


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Vote: Panthera Leo

Have to admit, it is kind of strange that he'd add the "avoid one lynch" thing when he could've easily left that out.


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Hahahaha this is like the best case scenario ever. For one, his claim sounds incredibly made up, so I think with that and all the other things (+why add in your claim the "hey remember I can protect you" if you can survive the day lynch anyway) he's more than likely Mafia. However, on the off chance he's telling the truth, he survives this lynch and goes on to protect someone at night.

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And actually, I feel with Pant Leo's experience he should know to not claim his role if he's going to survive the Day anyway, or at least wait until the next day.
EVERYONE, DONT HAMMER UNTIL I GET MY ANSWER FROM 194

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TheOneWhoKnocks wrote:
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And actually, I feel with Pant Leo's experience he should know to not claim his role if he's going to survive the Day anyway, or at least wait until the next day.
EVERYONE, DONT HAMMER UNTIL I GET MY ANSWER FROM 194


Thats why i believe he is a different kind of fool, his claim was wayyyyy too fishy.

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Felipe_9595 wrote:
TheOneWhoKnocks wrote:
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And actually, I feel with Pant Leo's experience he should know to not claim his role if he's going to survive the Day anyway, or at least wait until the next day.
EVERYONE, DONT HAMMER UNTIL I GET MY ANSWER FROM 194


Thats why i believe he is a different kind of fool, his claim was wayyyyy too fishy.
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Hahahaha this is like the best case scenario ever. For one, his claim sounds incredibly made up, so I think with that and all the other things (+why add in your claim the "hey remember I can protect you" if you can survive the day lynch anyway) he's more than likely Mafia. However, on the off chance he's telling the truth, he survives this lynch and goes on to protect someone at night.

Either way, lynching gives us benefits.

There's only one type of fool. No variation exists (to the extent of my knowledge)


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Dephius wrote:
Felipe_9595 wrote:
TheOneWhoKnocks wrote:
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And actually, I feel with Pant Leo's experience he should know to not claim his role if he's going to survive the Day anyway, or at least wait until the next day.
EVERYONE, DONT HAMMER UNTIL I GET MY ANSWER FROM 194


Thats why i believe he is a different kind of fool, his claim was wayyyyy too fishy.
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Hahahaha this is like the best case scenario ever. For one, his claim sounds incredibly made up, so I think with that and all the other things (+why add in your claim the "hey remember I can protect you" if you can survive the day lynch anyway) he's more than likely Mafia. However, on the off chance he's telling the truth, he survives this lynch and goes on to protect someone at night.

Either way, lynching gives us benefits.

There's only one type of fool. No variation exists (to the extent of my knowledge)


wut, Are you really impliyng people cannot modify existing roles??

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While it is possible that DJ concocted a new form of jester, I find it highly unlikely thats the case. It would seem like stupid misdirection to deconfirm the "standard" jester but include something like "jester with a hat". Also if Panthera were the fool he would already be dead. His play could be MUCH worse.

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I doubt Pathera is a fool. Like ToWK said he could be WAY more scummy, and if he really wanted to get lynched he could have made a worse claim(like a vigilante who can protect people too.) Maybe he didn't want to make his jester role so obvious, but it's not very likely(or is it.) I'm not gonna vote for him for TOWK's purposes, but it's safe to say that the first day seems like it's coming to an end, so I'll give my general reads later.


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My reads
1)King Arthur:Slight scum vibe-If for no other reason then his "let's test your lynch proof powers out" post from page 24. Really if your town you should lynch them based off the vibe they're giving, not to see if they'll survive or not. It could be a slip of the tongue, but meh not very town like of him. Also I guess Arthur did make a slightly scummy move of voting for JC with TOWK's reasoning. Slightly new, if not he would have definitely have a medium scum vibe.

2)194:medium town vibe-Moving the day forward, making deductions, and seems to be fairly helpful.(still wouldn't be surprise if this was all an act though.)

3)Ramsey:Null-Don't know what to think of him, it seems like he's more accustomed to a different kind of mafia. The whole start from scratch thing wasn't really that scummy either.

4)Brikmaninoff:Medium town vibe-He seem rather productive, but brik acts like this pretty much every time he plays regardless of alignment, so it's really hard to tell. He does seem to not be completely on JC side though, even though they've been agreeing on every point most of the time. Also making good deduction and precautions to make sure our lynch is for the better.

5)Lightning:Slight scum vibe-Just a feeling really, lighting seems not really all that productive and is acting in similar fashion to some of his/her previous game as mafia. Still nothing solid though.

6)TheOneWhoKnocks:slight town vibe- Meh asking for reads, made some deduction, and asking some questions seem fine to me.

7)Dephius:Slight town vibe-Like lightning merely based off past games, not much more to it.

9)JamesClyde:medium scum feeling- Like I said before, he was being way too defensive when Felipe threw out his "JC is slightly scummy" read. Also he seems to be confused with the terms accusing of being total scum and scum vibe as shown on page 23 when arguing against shoop and TOWK, that or really defensive. One does not need evidence to get a scum vibe and it's just a read which don't actually need defininte proof unless your ready to vote and lynch them.

10)Terra:Null-Eh really he has been more demanding of things that'll help the town, but I just get a general scum vibe from his post pattern. Nothing solid.

11)kyuubit:slight scum vibe-Really not enough post, but he seems to just pop up out of no where and leave without saying anything to help the town.

12)Bonsaitoad:Null-post too little not enough info.

13)Felipe:Slight town vibe-Seems to be helping the town and taking precautions to make sure a fast lynch doesn't happen. Doesn't buy into whatever anyone says also.

14)Shoop:Null- I wanted to put him under slightly scummy for the whole let's not lynch day one, but he is new so I'm gonna give him some slack. Other then that though not much to tell from him.

15)Lukepi:Null- Don't know what his play style is and no signs of being scummy exactly, cept maybe the bandwagon. He doesn't have that many post, but he does seem to have some good reads.

16)Thomas:Null- Lack of posting

17)Panthera-Medium scum vibe- Very defensive, and flawed lets not random vote day one posts. Also the claim isn't exactly in the best light ever.


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Felipe_9595 wrote:
Dephius wrote:
Felipe_9595 wrote:
TheOneWhoKnocks wrote:
EBWOP
And actually, I feel with Pant Leo's experience he should know to not claim his role if he's going to survive the Day anyway, or at least wait until the next day.
EVERYONE, DONT HAMMER UNTIL I GET MY ANSWER FROM 194


Thats why i believe he is a different kind of fool, his claim was wayyyyy too fishy.
TheOneWhoKnocks wrote:
Hahahaha this is like the best case scenario ever. For one, his claim sounds incredibly made up, so I think with that and all the other things (+why add in your claim the "hey remember I can protect you" if you can survive the day lynch anyway) he's more than likely Mafia. However, on the off chance he's telling the truth, he survives this lynch and goes on to protect someone at night.

Either way, lynching gives us benefits.

There's only one type of fool. No variation exists (to the extent of my knowledge)

wut, Are you really impliyng people cannot modify existing roles??

Do you really think DJ would do that after he confirmed no fools? He isn't a bastard mod. Well, he COULD be, but it's highly unlikely since the last game had bastard mods.


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I'd like to know what everyone's thoughts are on Panthera's claim before the hammer.


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He deserves a prize for the worst claim ever.

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Luk, I'd like you to create a reads list from town to scum in the manner of either Dephius or myself, with reasoning, of course.

Not gonna bother coming up with a s*** excuse as to why I'm late to make this, I'll just do it now.


King Arthur: Doesn't seem all that suspicious, but not 100% sure on him yet.
194: Most likely town.
Ramsey: Town.
Brikmaninoff: Definitely town.
Lightning: Town, was courteous enough to ask TOWK to read him, probably not something scum would do.
TheOneWhoKnocks: Also most likely town.
Dephius: Town.
Blood: Town.
JamesClyde: Suspicious. I'm not too sure what I think yet, but I'm leaning towards scum. He seems too aggressive and quick to divert attention away from himself.
Terra: Made some really good arguments, most definitely town.
kyuubit: No idea.
Bonsaitoad: I dunno.
Felipe: Really c*** but I've known Fleep for a good while now and that's just his personality. Town.
Shoop: Town I s'pose.
Thomas: Not a clue.
Panthera: Smells scummy; overly defensive.

I also apologize again for my lack of overall experience and ability to read people; I'm still veritably new to mafia.

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