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SilverSnake
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I want this thread to be mainly bad matchups you have generally encountered, although i am a very new player to ssf2 I do main link, and from my experience Capt. Falco is my worst nightmare. With that statement i want to know Bad matchups for more or less every character you guys main, or have played against. This does not limit you to posting what you have a hard time beating, this also applies to matchups you just destroy.
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MeleeWaluigi
Joined: Sat Jul 30, 2016 6:18 pm Posts: 257 Location: Somewhere in Hell Country:
Gender: Male
MGN Username: riku434
Skype: riku434
Currently Playing: Project M
Waifu: Joseph Joestar
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Kirby loses so many MUs but his worst MU is defiantly Isaac (30:70 imo). Isaac's Side B basically stops Kirby from approaching. Isaac can probably stall by spamming Side B and Jab tbh. Also Isaac has so many tools while Kirby doesn't have many, so Kirby cant really deal with most of Isaac's moves.
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darkrinorex
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:05 am Posts: 308 Country:
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MGN Username: FluffyRuff
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Hmm well this is just my first experience thought online play. ![Luigi :luigi:](images/smilies/char_luigi.png) : ![Mr. Game & Watch :gameandwatch:](images/smilies/char_gameandwatch.png) sometimes have a hard time getting in with grabs and if I mess up my combo while under him (sometimes if continues offstage) his dair destroys me. Also takes advantage of fire balls with bucket. There are some cases I see where I can go in for a up b. Fire balls does help you get in, but ![Mr. Game & Watch :gameandwatch:](images/smilies/char_gameandwatch.png) can do the same with his neutral b so yeah. I think he also struggles against ![Meta Knight :metaknight:](images/smilies/char_metaknight.png) cause he gets out ranged and probably has a hard time getting back to ledge against him. I also heard ![Luigi :luigi:](images/smilies/char_luigi.png) has a hard time fighting ![Fox :fox:](images/smilies/char_fox.png) , idk how well he does against the falco and everyone else tbh. ![Meta Knight :metaknight:](images/smilies/char_metaknight.png) Again, this is just first experience and i'm still learning the match ups but, I think ![Meta Knight :metaknight:](images/smilies/char_metaknight.png) sometimes struggles against Wario cause of his up air and gets pushed out easily when trying to get in with combos and stuff. Also against ![Fox :fox:](images/smilies/char_fox.png) , ![Fox :fox:](images/smilies/char_fox.png) is really fast and his up air kill combos is hard to get away from sometimes. But I honestly think ![Fox :fox:](images/smilies/char_fox.png) wins that MU. ![Zero Suit Samus :zerosuitsamus:](images/smilies/char_zerosuitsamus.png) her recovery when she losesher double jump (LUL). ![Bowser :bowser:](images/smilies/char_bowser.png) : I'd say ![Meta Knight :metaknight:](images/smilies/char_metaknight.png) obviously cause of how easy it is to up air up b combo him and edge guard. Probably loses to ![Zero Suit Samus :zerosuitsamus:](images/smilies/char_zerosuitsamus.png) and Falco too. So again for the last time saying, all of this are just my thoughts just from my experience from online play though I haven't fought these characters much, so I maybe wrong.
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SilverSnake
Joined: Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:10 pm Posts: 15 Country:
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![](images/spacer.gif) | ![](images/spacer.gif) | ![](images/spacer.gif) | ![](images/spacer.gif) | darkrinorex wrote: Hmm well this is just my first experience thought online play. ![Luigi :luigi:](images/smilies/char_luigi.png) : ![Mr. Game & Watch :gameandwatch:](images/smilies/char_gameandwatch.png) sometimes have a hard time getting in with grabs and if I mess up my combo while under him (sometimes if continues offstage) his dair destroys me. Also takes advantage of fire balls with bucket. There are some cases I see where I can go in for a up b. Fire balls does help you get in, but ![Mr. Game & Watch :gameandwatch:](images/smilies/char_gameandwatch.png) can do the same with his neutral b so yeah. I think he also struggles against ![Meta Knight :metaknight:](images/smilies/char_metaknight.png) cause he gets out ranged and probably has a hard time getting back to ledge against him. I also heard ![Luigi :luigi:](images/smilies/char_luigi.png) has a hard time fighting ![Fox :fox:](images/smilies/char_fox.png) , idk how well he does against the falco and everyone else tbh. ![Meta Knight :metaknight:](images/smilies/char_metaknight.png) Again, this is just first experience and i'm still learning the match ups but, I think ![Meta Knight :metaknight:](images/smilies/char_metaknight.png) sometimes struggles against Wario cause of his up air and gets pushed out easily when trying to get in with combos and stuff. Also against ![Fox :fox:](images/smilies/char_fox.png) , ![Fox :fox:](images/smilies/char_fox.png) is really fast and his up air kill combos is hard to get away from sometimes. But I honestly think ![Fox :fox:](images/smilies/char_fox.png) wins that MU. ![Zero Suit Samus :zerosuitsamus:](images/smilies/char_zerosuitsamus.png) her recovery when she has no double (LUL). ![Bowser :bowser:](images/smilies/char_bowser.png) : I'd say ![Meta Knight :metaknight:](images/smilies/char_metaknight.png) obviously cause of how easy it is to up air up b combo him and edge guard. Probably loses to ![Zero Suit Samus :zerosuitsamus:](images/smilies/char_zerosuitsamus.png) and Falco too. So again for the last time saying, all of this are just my thoughts just from my experience from online play though I haven't fought these characters much, so I maybe wrong. | ![](images/spacer.gif) | ![](images/spacer.gif) | ![](images/spacer.gif) | ![](images/spacer.gif) |
oh thats just what this thread is about, all about your past experiences against characters that are a pretty bad match for your mains, your information is sure to help others reading this thread!
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Gudako's Insanity
Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:51 am Posts: 647 Location: Smug Island, with all Smug Anime characters
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I'd say Bowser has the worst matchup with Jiggly. Bowser has such a huge hitbox and Rest kills at an early percent as of Beta, so there's that too.
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Sonario
Joined: Wed May 29, 2013 5:15 am Posts: 2481 Location: The MG Discord Country:
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I had a really hard time fighting a good Marth as Mario because Mario's moves are slow while Marth's are almost instant so I couldn't land a single blow without being combo'd. (The input delay didn't help either)
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squirtkipfan0
Joined: Tue May 30, 2017 8:44 am Posts: 60 Location: wouldn't you like to know? Country:
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Currently Playing: TF2, terraria, ssf2, fire emblem(various ones), other things
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I have never won a ![Black Mage :blackmage:](images/smilies/char_blackmage.png) vs ![Link :link:](images/smilies/char_link.png) match 1 on 1. And I'm pretty good as blackmage. Blackmage lack of range flops with links extended sword and projectile range.
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riplip68
Joined: Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:54 pm Posts: 140 Location: one place Country:
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BDee is abysmal against Isaac and isaac spam
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Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:04 pm |
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SilverSnake
Joined: Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:10 pm Posts: 15 Country:
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Ive defeated three shieks in a row (one of them I especially enjoyed playing against [I think their user was Night(something)17] because they had a sense of fairness (I accidently ran of the edge at the start, and they ran off too just to balance us out) had a really good skillset, and was generally just a fun battle, tested me to my limits.) I know faster classes are really bad matches for link, but shiek seems to be my only exception. Im not sure if its because all of the shieks i play against are bad or that its just that their moves cant compete with links.
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bunq
Joined: Wed May 31, 2017 9:54 am Posts: 109 Country:
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As Marth, I feel like I can't do anything aginst Mega Man. You basically can't be on the ground. Edit: I've won a couple now. The less they spam neutral/side B, the better I do.
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darkrinorex
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:05 am Posts: 308 Country:
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So far, i'm honestly feeling like ![Meta Knight :metaknight:](images/smilies/char_metaknight.png) has trouble getting in on ![Mario :mario:](images/smilies/char_mario.png) cause fire balls and if you try time your hits bad, his up smash kills you. A funny thing I noticed is that ![Mario :mario:](images/smilies/char_mario.png) dash attack makes me think he's a sword character LOL. When I fought a ![Mario :mario:](images/smilies/char_mario.png) who spam dash attack to try getting in, I noticed that some of the dash hits DON'T ACTUALLY HIT ME!! LOL. it's like 1-2 feet away from me, but the dash attack still connects, no wonder some people think ![Mario :mario:](images/smilies/char_mario.png) is better than ![Marth :marth:](images/smilies/char_marth.png) in this game But again tho, this was mostly a laggy match up, so Idk how this MU actually is when there's no lag (I blame target sign for causing lag in basically all my matches so far lol).
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riplip68
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darkrinorex
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:05 am Posts: 308 Country:
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squirtkipfan0
Joined: Tue May 30, 2017 8:44 am Posts: 60 Location: wouldn't you like to know? Country:
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Currently Playing: TF2, terraria, ssf2, fire emblem(various ones), other things
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![Luffy :luffy:](images/smilies/char_luffy.png) vs tails neutral special ruins luffys neutral and side special(the focal point behind he's stage control)
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mains be ![Tails :tails:](images/smilies/char_tails.png) like but not necessarily good as ![Sora :sora:](images/smilies/char_sora.png) reeeeaaaally hoping for: a PlayStation representative, shadow, lucas, a different fire emblem character(though id be lying if I said id be mad with ike), trevor Belmont(id think he would have a more reasonable moveset than simon) Too spammable for my liking: Bomb Arrows
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darkrinorex
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:05 am Posts: 308 Country:
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OK, so lately, people seem to love counter picking with ![Mario :mario:](images/smilies/char_mario.png) everytime they see me use ![Meta Knight :metaknight:](images/smilies/char_metaknight.png) . I can see why after playing against ![Mario :mario:](images/smilies/char_mario.png) , his back and forward throw can kill him kinda easily (in ![Meta Knight :metaknight:](images/smilies/char_metaknight.png) neutral jab after the 3rd hit, I think ![Mario :mario:](images/smilies/char_mario.png) can grab you and just throw you into the blast zone at high percent). His fireballs is annoying for ![Meta Knight :metaknight:](images/smilies/char_metaknight.png) deal with (of course I try to fly over them), also have to be careful about after they throw a fireball, cause if you fly over them, they will probably most likely try to upsmash you (which I do a lot with ![Luigi :luigi:](images/smilies/char_luigi.png) ). Not sure if using dimension cape is a good thing to rely one when they start using fireballs. ![Mario :mario:](images/smilies/char_mario.png) does seem reall easy to edge guard though. What else does anyone think about the ![Mario :mario:](images/smilies/char_mario.png) vs ![Meta Knight :metaknight:](images/smilies/char_metaknight.png) match up? I'm honestly right now feeling like ![Luigi :luigi:](images/smilies/char_luigi.png) vs ![Falco :falco:](images/smilies/char_falco.png) could be even IMO. Besides reflecting fireballs (which I think everyone can do just by shielding lol), I think fireballs mess with ![Falco :falco:](images/smilies/char_falco.png) and gives ![Luigi :luigi:](images/smilies/char_luigi.png) a good opening to combo/grab combo/reset grab combo him since he's a fast faller and go for quick smash hit to K.O., I just feel like ![Luigi :luigi:](images/smilies/char_luigi.png) vs ![Falco :falco:](images/smilies/char_falco.png) isn't actually that bad of a match up for ![Luigi :luigi:](images/smilies/char_luigi.png) again imo, ![Luigi :luigi:](images/smilies/char_luigi.png) vs ![Fox :fox:](images/smilies/char_fox.png) tho.. yeah idk yet lol.
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