You need to be nerfed. I've never seen a player use dashdancing and mobility so well. I also like the times that you used Tails' wavedash. Those qualities along with constant mixing up of attacks makes you a very tough nut to crack. However, I did see a pattern in you assault. You tend to move back a lot and not shield or dodge. My style of play still needs work and I couldn't properly capitalize, but quick adapting players could capitalize on that. I'm not 'pro', but I do notice some things. Hope you take this into consideration.

speaking of shielding, what are the best options out of shield for tails, i never feel like i can do anything out of shield and get away with it.

as for your style of play, dont go for such short range attacks against tails. despite tails projectile destroying all projectiles, projectile spamming and far range attacks such as Zamus' tend to shut down players and force them to camp neutral be in the air or on the ground, usually the only real way to get a attack in on a projectile spammer is to either jump spam neutral b, or to aerial spindash at them, as aerial spindash has very high priority.

Yeah I know about that haha, just wanted to point out it's not necessary to "jump cancel" it. Of course your method is more useful tho!.

does upsmash have a tiny soft hit hitbox. i used it and it hit, they were at 150 percent, but they lived and were only sent up slightly, even with a damage ratio of 0.5% (which it wasn't) it should have killed.

Yeah ive noticed on occasion some moves dont seem to hit like they should

Ive ate a rest like nothing at 60% once.

anybody have any tips for the samus matchup. i have never felt so helpless at a matchup in my life. just about every approach i have can be countered by using down-b, and the only ones that aren't are either shieldstabed by the power missile, or are so extremely easy to punish that they are not worth mentioning. i have tried zoning my attacks but the missiles just wont let me get in. every single approach, tailsdash or not just ends up in me getting hit. I want to know if there is any actual approach on samus as tails.

Don't play Tails nor Samus, tho the only advice I'd could give it's to just be less reckless in your approaches, since the bomb in fact can shut most of em (and against other characters too of course). When fighting against a Tails player I see they try to just get in regardless of the circumstances; tho it works most of the time coz of the speed of the character, in this MU it can be dangerous.

Since he's got more jumps than others maybe it's possible to try to punish her after dropping a bomb (since she leaves the ground for a moment) or try to bait her to jump in the air, where most of your attacks are faster than hers. In this situation missiles shouldn't be much trouble; and in general missiles aren't that hard to avoid (lag after the attack and you can crouch under them).

Hope some of this helps, and if not sorry haha

i appreciate the advice, but i have tried just about all of it.

tails edgegaurd doesn't have to always be down-b, for some reason i thought this. but recently i got the idea to arial spindash off the ledge as it keeps your momentum, jump and face towards the stage, then Bair as a fast means of edgegaurding, or perhaps fair if you feel like mixing it up. or it is possible if you for some reason feel like pulling off a diar, you can. you can also remove the jump if you are going for a quick dair before a opponent like link or ichigo goes into unedgegaurdable, unless you have the aim of a master, (up-b) you could probably get away with it if they are low enough. though most of you probably already knew this. or not, i dont know.

Against Samus I would try to bait a commitment by Samus and then approach. Try to get a read on Samus and predict when they are going to land a bomb, and then use Tails's speed to approach quickly. Just practice powershielding the missiles on reaction (at least the Super Missiles, which are fairly easy to powershield), and you should be able to work your way around the bombs.

Count me in, once I get this Tailsdash done pernamently, I´ll give him a try online. Looks pretty hard though with ~1 second input delay.

Hey Samuraiman, want to have a Tails ditto someday? I think I learned some things that I want to test on human players. Same goes for all the other 4 Tails out there

Sure! Left you a PM about it

yo just message me when i'm in the IRC or PM me, i will fight you so long as the connection is decent. also, samuraiman, whats your IGN i dont think i have fought you before.

At least someone else besides me thinks Samus's Bombs are annoying.

Samurai, finally got some footage of my tails, actually remembered to press save.

https://www.mediafire.com/?7vorz67sgjmf2s8

https://www.mediafire.com/?gp7au47xxgfd32v

wish i saved some of my matched vs kyoz