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Super Smash Brothers Crusade: !!!0.9.1 RELEASED!!! 
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Heres a comparison that could help Felipe. The difference is in the arrangement of the towns and the night sky color. Yours is good and you don't need to change anything if you'd like but i have to agree a lil with Tid when i say that it does seem a lil out of place. Nice job on the foreground though :)

Its good to see some new tweaks :D
Try to buff up waluigi a bit please. He seems kinda weak imo
any tweaks for ristar or mach rider?

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like i said

'everyone has their own way of making games'

it shouldn't matter what they do to their game, its THEIR game. like i said before

'if u don't like what their doing, then leave the topic and don't come back!'

Its called criticism. Every game goes through impression,critique,comments, and questioning/speculating.
No one is defending or going against the game in a fanboyish argument.. If it does look kind of lazy, Tid can say it kind of looks lazy. Not having critique is like creating an awful Devil may cry clone without listening to any of the Fanboys expectations.

and no need to butt in because it sounds like you're trying to be the moderator of this topic


Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:39 pm
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Thats the best pic i could get, if you compare them, they are pretty similar, at least 4 buildings are in the position they should be, but ok, i will see if i can do a better BG (brawlbox, there we go xP)

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This is the topic to discuss the game, that is exactly what I'm doing. I'm breaking no rules.

no, your not discussing the topic, your causing a fight. discussion is peaceful. Not with swearing. and like Felipe_9595 has pointed out, your trolling the topic, and you won't stop, you were the reason old topic was locked, because you kept on causing a fight, thats why i reported you, because you were causing problems... AGAIN

no, i was trying to stop the fight, if u hadn't noticed before i joined in on this.

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Thats the best pic i could get, if you compare them, they are pretty similar, at least 4 buildings are in the position they should be, but ok, i will see if i can do a better BG (brawlbox, there we go xP)

Just photoshop the background to match the colors of the SSBM fourside, remove some buildings, arrange them and call it a stage. I understand what Tid said that its lazy to google images.. But at least make something out of it that could like fourside xP

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This is the topic to discuss the game, that is exactly what I'm doing. I'm breaking no rules.

no, your not discussing the topic, your causing a fight. discussion is peaceful. Not with swearing. and like Felipe_9595 has pointed out, your trolling the topic, and you won't stop, you were the reason old topic was locked, because you kept on causing a fight, thats why i reported you, because you were causing problems... AGAIN

no, i was trying to stop the fight, if u hadn't noticed before i joined in on this.

It actually is on topic because he was critiquing about the Fourside background.
Seriously, knock some common sense into yourself. We get it already


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deathshallcome wrote:
Tid wrote:
This is the topic to discuss the game, that is exactly what I'm doing. I'm breaking no rules.

no, your not discussing the topic, your causing a fight. discussion is peaceful. Not with swearing. and like Felipe_9595 has pointed out, your trolling the topic, and you won't stop, you were the reason old topic was locked, because you kept on causing a fight, thats why i reported you, because you were causing problems... AGAIN

no, i was trying to stop the fight, if u hadn't noticed before i joined in on this.

actually you're the only one here that's discussing something that isn't crusade. please do so, i don't want to report you.

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Thats the best pic i could get, if you compare them, they are pretty similar, at least 4 buildings are in the position they should be, but ok, i will see if i can do a better BG (brawlbox, there we go xP)

Just photoshop the background to match the colors of the SSBM fourside, remove some buildings, arrange them and call it a stage. I understand what Tid said that its lazy to google images.. But at least make something out of it that could like fourside xP

Mm exactly what I mean. Out of place was the wrong term to use, it doesn't look out of place, it just doesn't look like Fourside.

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You know what? Stop. Please just stop this pointless argument right now.

I mean, really. I don't come over into the SSF2 general discussion topic and nitpick about how I hate how some stage or another was sprited. I certainly don't argue about it for 23 posts straight (yes, I counted).
If you'd like to suggest a specific change, then so be it. Saying a background is crap and that we are lazy because it was taken from Google and cursing us out about it isn't constructive criticism, it's destructive criticism. Offer a design. Say something that might work better.
Don't just jerk around and complain about how 3 people making arguably the largest Smash Brothers fangame (character-content-wise) didn't have the time to make a custom background for one stage or another. This is called being a jerk. It is called destructive criticism. Now please stop. End of discussion.

You know what I find very sad? Every time I look at this thread and there's more than 5 posts since the last time I checked, I know instantly it was people having a flame war. Why? There's not anything to talk about that would end up in 20+ posts within two hours since the last time I looked here. Why can't you guys just be nice? It's obviously possible, since TSON and Geno and I are on entirely good terms. There's nothing wrong with devs giving suggestions, but simply cursing at each other and saying the other dev team is a bunch of lazy-butts is crossing the line.

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I'm not on bad terms with you at all. I'm not a huge fan of Felipe, but I have no problem with you.
I hardly cussed you out. My criticism was entirely valid, and I've reiterated that multiple times. I'll go again because I doubt you want to reread these posts any more.
The background does not look like Fourside. There's no argument about the fact that if you take an image from google, despite it not looking like it is supposed to, it shows a distinct lack of care. My criticism is not remotely destructive, it's entirely valid. If you play the Fourside stage then the background should look like Fourside and not just some random city at night time.

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Tid wrote:
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And the problem is??

EDIT: And also, my first language is spanish, i did search for "Luna" and "Ciudades de Noche", and they werent the first result, i am not that lame, and i still dont see the problem with it, we have an own graphic style, we mostly use textures for the stages,.

your "own graphic style" is literally the first result in a google image search



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ssf2 has a lot fewer spriters than you'd think, actually. we have about 3 for stages and 4 for characters, that I can think of.

i don't care if it was the first image or not, that's not the issue. the issue is instead of putting effort in, you seem to think it's perfectly reasonable to be lazy as f#%$& and just grab your background of google. feel free to ignore how out of place and unfitting it looks in game, and the fact that it looks nothing like fourside, i guess, but at least acknowledge the laziness behind it.


Yeah, thats the PERFECT way to make critic.



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Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:21 pm
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You know what? Stop. Please just stop this pointless argument right now.

I mean, really. I don't come over into the SSF2 general discussion topic and nitpick about how I hate how some stage or another was sprited. I certainly don't argue about it for 23 posts straight (yes, I counted).
If you'd like to suggest a specific change, then so be it. Saying a background is crap and that we are lazy because it was taken from Google and cursing us out about it isn't constructive criticism, it's destructive criticism. Offer a design. Say something that might work better.
Don't just jerk around and complain about how 3 people making arguably the largest Smash Brothers fangame (character-content-wise) didn't have the time to make a custom background for one stage or another. This is called being a jerk. It is called destructive criticism. Now please stop. End of discussion.

You know what I find very sad? Every time I look at this thread and there's more than 5 posts since the last time I checked, I know instantly it was people having a flame war. Why? There's not anything to talk about that would end up in 20+ posts within two hours since the last time I looked here. Why can't you guys just be nice? It's obviously possible, since TSON and Geno and I are on entirely good terms. There's nothing wrong with devs giving suggestions, but simply cursing at each other and saying the other dev team is a bunch of lazy-butts is crossing the line.


He didn't mean that it was lazy. Hes overall describing that the background doesn't match fourside's background much. This is constructive criticism. Listen, we apologize for using the wrong terms but in overall, the background doesn't match fourside. as i said, try photoshopping it so that it could match fourside in some way. Ill give it a shot since i got photoshop so please link me to this picture and ill see what i can do before continuing on Vaati and Ezio sprites.

and Mcleodgaming has said a couple of times that they apologize for the flame war about V0.8
You're not professional spriters and i know that but i think giving it a shot would be nice


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Okie then. Sorry about the whole flame thingy that started up xP


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Yeah dont worry, you at least pointed out the flaws in a nice way.

Hmm doesnt convince me:

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Felipe basically quoted everything I was going to quote.

Anyways.

So how about that Online mode preview? :3

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Thats actually good :D
If you don't want to arrange the buildings.. Thats fine :)
It now seems little-somewhat similar to fourside

and yesh! another online preview please! lol
Im just anticipated for V0.8


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I cant arrange the building, i would f*** the perspective. Gonna try using brawl box.

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