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 |  |  |  | Ziku wrote: Okay, upon re-reading, I can see just how extreme my post sounded. That arc, along with Naruto's battle, actually ties with the Sasuke and Itachi arc as my favorite parts of the series, but I really have a big problem with how a lot of it felt like it got swept under the rug. The thing of it is though is Nagato destroyed damn near everything. Many people are dead, the village is a pile of rubble, destruction is everywhere. To him, the ends justify the means, while to Naruto, every person deserves to live and people are better understanding one another through compassion than fear and tyranny. And he actually wins Nagato to his side. Every bit of that I get and I support and I really really dig. But it's the fact that Nagato and Yamoto could just undo all that damage like it was nothing that really throws it into a bad place for me. Look, read however you like into this, I am a f#%$& sadistic reader. The main character needs to experience a whole lot of suffering from the beginning of a story to the end. I am NOT saying they turn into a wangsty teenage brat, not at all, but a good character needs to feel implications HARD. And I am not saying good actions have no reward, but Naruto's reward for sparring Nagato's life could have been his surrender, and he could have maybe undone a little of his damage, but when the Leaf Village feels so much the same after Nagato's attack as it did before, it just cheats the experience. And it makes me fearful death is going to be cheap again. Heck, we've been dealing with dead characters this entire damn arc, and one of them managed a full resurrection. In short, I said nothing was accomplished because a lot of the destruction was undone like it was nothing. But no, there was certainly more to that arc than just destruction, indeed. |  |  |  |  |
I understand what you mean, and I agree with you to some extent. When Nagato first brought everyone back I thought it was kind of a lame cop out too. And I guess it was to some extent, but it's not like it was pulled out of nowhere, the Rinne Tensei I mean. I mean it is the technique of a god basically, and it's purpose was originally to revive Madara's corpse. I guess what i'm trying to say is it doesn't seem farfetched that he could possess an ability like that. And it did cost him his life. And I know what you mean about cheapening death, I hate that too. But like you said most of those deaths were canon fodder, the only real major death was Kakashi, and I don't know about you but i'm glad he survived. That was one f*** up way to go. Also don't forget that in this same arc we lost a major character, Jiraiya. And the thing about the village being rebuilt, again I felt the same way, to some extent. (Sorry I'll stop using that phrase now) But think about it. Yamato possesses the wood style jutsu, we've seen him build houses in an instant prior to this arc. It would be stupid for Kishimoto to ignore that, of course he would take advantage of it. And he didn't exactly fix it over night, or by himself even. After the village was destroyed, it was incomplete for quite some time. You would often see workers lugging planks of wood, and working, or just incomplete buildings or tents. http://cl.ly/image/1c3m1M07302Vhttp://cl.ly/image/0X2d3A1O3O3vHowever I do agree with the fact that they should have made a bigger deal out of it, and that the village felt way too similar even though it was just destroyed. Also in looking for those manga scans, I just realized the new chapters out!
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Looks like Rikudo's desire became a reality. Now we will finally see the real power of the "Dimensional Mangekyo", I always wondered, if you put those two eyes together, will you finally create a Susano'o? It would be very weird through, two people inside one Susano'o, weirder since they never awoke neither the Tsukuyomi or the Amaterasu, but I still think it would be amazing to see the Susano'o of such badass Mangekyo. But what I can't wait to see are the new powers of Naruto.
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Yay! I knew it!, finally an orange looking Tailed Beast Mode.
EDIT: After re-read it, I noticed something: Obito took some of the One-Tail's and Eight-Tails' chakra from Madara's Ten-Tails, while he himself has the Yin chakra of the Nine-Tails. And if I recall correctly, time ago Naruto recived some chakra from the Two, Three, Four, Five, Six and Seven-Tails. And if we learned something from the first time the Ten-Tails was revived, is that only one fraccion of each Tailed Beast's chakra is needed for fully using the Ten-Tails power. After Obito inyected the Yin side of the Nine-Tails into Naruto, he probably also inyected the One and Eight Tails' chakra he also absorbed into him, and is highly likely that Naruto still posseses the other Tailed Beasts' chakra, meaning that now he posseses ALL the Tailed Beasts' chakra inside him. We all know were this is going, don't we?
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You are right... I didn't noticed until the re-read either. Looks like we will have 3 shinobi Gods after all.
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Ziku
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 |  |  |  | Rikudo wrote: Yay! I knew it!, finally an orange looking Tailed Beast Mode.
EDIT: After re-read it, I noticed something: Obito took some of the One-Tail's and Eight-Tails' chakra from Madara's Ten-Tails, while he himself has the Yin chakra of the Nine-Tails. And if I recall correctly, time ago Naruto recived some chakra from the Two, Three, Four, Five, Six and Seven-Tails. And if we learned something from the first time the Ten-Tails was revived, is that only one fraccion of each Tailed Beast's chakra is needed for fully using the Ten-Tails power. After Obito inyected the Yin side of the Nine-Tails into Naruto, he probably also inyected the One and Eight Tails' chakra he also absorbed into him, and is highly likely that Naruto still posseses the other Tailed Beasts' chakra, meaning that now he posseses ALL the Tailed Beasts' chakra inside him. We all know were this is going, don't we? |  |  |  |  |
... Dayum... That's quite an observation. And exactly what we need
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Well thanks for that. And yeah, I think it would be awesome to see Naruto using the Ten-Tails' power.
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That would be awesome, and a greatfinal formfor Naruto to end the series with.
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Whoever said that Kabuto was the guy with Sasuke, give him a medall, he was right.
We will miss you Guy.
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Time to see the Taijutsu level hit a new threshold for the first time in a loooooong time.
We all knew it had to happen before the end of the series. They've been hyping the Shimon since the Chunin Exams arc. But I love (read: hate) how Madara already knows that it has something to do with red steam. Like he's seen it before.
That cheapens it a lot, actually. All the hype, and Madara's already seen it. Feh.
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honestly why does guy think it will work
it's the final boss we're talking about here, of course it's gonna fail and badly lmao
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All I need is for Guy to surpass Madara's expectations. Of Shimon, of Guy's taijutsu, of everything he's doubted.
It's pretty much a foregone conclusion that whatever Guy does with Shimon is going to fail, since Madara's already knowledgeable of it.
But all I need to see is one shred of fear on Madara's face. One bead of sweat caused by Guy, and I'll be satisfied. LOL.
And I don't think Kishi will have Guy go out with anything less noble than that.Fullmetal Alchemist spoiler: That'd be about as good to me as that time Father blocked that physical attack with his arm instead of his barrier, right before Truth started coming out of him.
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Did you read what he said? He basically said he know's it's unlikely that it will work, but they are desperate, so all he can do is try, and hope that it does work. If there was ever a time to attempt his strongest technique, wouldn't it be against the final boss?
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SO....for healing Sasuke, Kabuto put his snake inside him?? ohh so kawaii o.o
GG Naruto and Orochimaru, Kabuto just defeated you both. XD
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Ziku
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Huh... You know I've heard it said before that in Asian culture, blue and green are treated as the same color. This might be the first time I've seen it in practice...
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LOL, but seriously, s"%& just got serious.
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