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Hydrogen cars and blah blah blah. 
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http://money.cnn.com/2012/03/15/autos/hydrogen-fuel-cell-cars/index.htm?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fmoney_latest+%28Latest+News%29


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While those automakers will introduce the cars in small numbers and in limited markets, by 2015 or so, Honda and Mercedes-Benz are already leasing hydrogen fuel-cell powered cars to customers in Southern California.


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Obvious problem - where do you get the hydrogen? If you are using natural gas to produce it, it's more efficient and much easier just to use the natural gas. If you're using electricity to produce it, it's much easier and more efficient to store it in a battery and use it that way.

Also, hydrogen gas is devilishly difficult to work with. Because of its tiny molecular size, it can embed itself in steel when under pressure. And in order to get any sort of range out of the vehicle, it will have to be pressurized to 4000 + psi, which requires more energy and also will require regular testing of the fuel tanks. If you're going to create a synthetic fuel, much better to use something like algae derived butanol or biodiesel.

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Hydrogen cars would change the world forever.

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Electricity to make anything is unclean and inefficient as most electricity in America comes from coal because no other alternate source provides enough of a supply to efficiently generate electricity with the exception of nuclear power plants.

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Nuclear power plants are even worse.

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No they are an efficient and clean method of generating energy. The issues that we have had with them in the past are based on two reasons: human error and structural integrity. As long as you build them to a strict set of standards you can eliminate the second issue. Once we figure out the best way to build them to minimize structural damage we should start reimplementing them asap.

Three mile island and japan were bad, but we shouldn't allow irrational fear about a disaster that has a small chance of occurring to stop us from progressing technologically and overcoming these issues.

If we don't stop living in fear of everything that could go wrong, we'll never progress.

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So if humans were to stop being so scared, we could get alot more s*** done.


If there was a way to make a safe nuclear power plant, it would change energy as a whole.


Also, if there was a way to make the ME of a machine to 100% we would save ALOT of energy.

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Whimzer wrote:
No they are an efficient and clean method of generating energy. The issues that we have had with them in the past are based on two reasons: human error and structural integrity. As long as you build them to a strict set of standards you can eliminate the second issue. Once we figure out the best way to build them to minimize structural damage we should start reimplementing them asap.

Three mile island and japan were bad, but we shouldn't allow irrational fear about a disaster that has a small chance of occurring to stop us from progressing technologically and overcoming these issues.

If we don't stop living in fear of everything that could go wrong, we'll never progress.

Discounting nuclear waste of course.

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no one ever counts byproducts because if we did nothing would truly be clean.

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Water.

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alright make me an efficient source of energy that uses water as a waste product in the next 3 to 5 years.

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I'll pass.

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Whimzer wrote:
no one ever counts byproducts because if we did nothing would truly be clean.

I just think that it's not about whether we can make reactors safe but how we are to dispose of nuclear waste properly that's more of an issue with nuclear fission.

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It's a work in progress, but we're better off perfecting it than looking towards useless forms of alternative energy.

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Helium 3 that is all

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