Two patches later and here's what i think of it all

My tier list for 1.0.3.2 after some thinking-

Some oddball choices but I think I did good. Maybe.

Hey fellas

Come and tell my why my opinions are trash

(this is for 1.0.3.2)



Also can you guys give a useful buff k thanks

There is no way Wario and Sora are worse than Kirby and there is no way Kirby is better than Peach

That Chibi placement is literally retarded

"Give them a useful buff and they are most likely in the tier above"

Chibi just got a ton of high quality buffs, he doesnt really need more. I certainly wouldnt mind, but as is Chibi is Top 15 at worst.



Upon further reading, is this a 1.0.2 tierlist?

Hm. I'll move Chibi up.

also fix the entire tier list because holy s*** thinking about it now it's literal trash.

At least he put in top tier, which is not where he belonged in 1.0.2.

eh, i give up making a correct tier list. I've got some weird opinions that I honestly don't think are good enough to be shared.

explain >

Here is my tier list of 1.0.3.2 so far

Ichigo Tier

Top Tier

High Tier

Upper Mid

Lower Mid

Low Tier

Unviable Tier


People are gonna complain about Kirby's placement but tbh once people actually learn more about Kirby in 1.0.3.2 people will realize how bad he still is

Bruh is high tier not upper mid.

Kirby is bad, but he's viable. I finally understand what you meant by fair being laggy, and I think it should come out a frame earlier and have more active frames, and he has weaknesses in approaching, but overall, I'd say he still stands a chance against the better characters in the hands of a smart player.
You can't just throw out a statement like "once people learn more about Kirby in 1.0.3.2 they'll realize how bad he is" without backing that up. Is there something you know that we don't or about or are you just making about ready dumb, baseless prediction in an attempt to get your main buffed without bothering to adapt?

Kirby's only real stengths are good edgeguard game and good combos. His only actually useful move in neutral is Bair and MAYBE Nair.

A lot of people say inhale is good but I actually think it's one of Kirby's worst moves because 1. End lag is terrible and many moves can beat it out. 2. Spit and swallow have little to no hitstun makimg combos untrue. Spit to Bair or any aerial being true is a misconception and can actually easily be avoided by DIing away or airdoging, which actually happens a lot from my experience. 3. Aerial Swallow has literally no hitstun. Tested this multiple times online and in training mode.

Kirby cannot approach as he has mediocre at best mobility and lacks range. Even with disjoints his moves easily get beaten out. Kirby can get walled out and camped very easily by multiple chatscters.

Kirby imo has only 3 winning MUs: Luigi, Naruto, and Pac. You probably question why I dont say Luffy is a winning MU for Kirby. That's because 1. The infinite isn't true, I've had many luffys escape it at 40% minimum no matter how fast I did it and 2. Many of Luffy's moves beat out everything Kirby has.

Kirby's only useful moves in neutral being bair and nair: on the right track, but you forgot dash attack.
Inhale is indeed s*** now.
Kirby indeed can't approach and must rely on punishes.
Nonetheless, I feel he wins enough niche m/us and is decent enough in patient hands to be considered viable. He arguably beats megaman, he beats yoshi, he beats those lower on the tier list than him, he beats Falcon, and he has volatile enough matchups against many characters to make Kirby as as whole a potential force to be reckoned with. I'm certainly not saying he's good, as he only has three good moves, good grounded mobility, and and few niche matchups keeping him afloat, but I am saying that he's viable and should be moved to the bottom of the next tier at the very least.

Does up-air not count as a good move